Does Georgia being geographically isolated as a swing state affect campaigning there?
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« on: November 27, 2022, 12:03:16 AM »

The "big 3" are all right next to eachother and easy to get transport between.

In the southwest, NV and AZ obv neighbor each other, and you can throw in TX or NM rally if you want. Furthermore, Las Vegas metro is only like an hour flight to Pheonix metro, which are the main population centers of those states.

But GA is kinda on it's own. 2024 seems like the first cycle where Florida isn't going to be heavily invested in or contested by both sides. North Carolina also seems to be a bit on the back burner, especially since there's no Senate seat or down ballot stuff up there in 2024. And VA is off the table as well.

Does this mean campaigns will be more dependent upon existing infrastructure/organizations in the state to GOTV, campaign, and message? They'll obv still visit Georgia but perhaps not as much as other states due to GA requiring more time be set aside.
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« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2022, 12:04:22 AM »

NC touches GA.

It'd be hilarious how swing state AK would be handled.
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« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2022, 12:08:32 AM »

NC touches GA.

It'd be hilarious how swing state AK would be handled.

Oh yeah, and I’ve seen some discussion about that elsewhere. One possibility is both sides just do like 1 main event there in Anchorage’s that’s always like hyped up and becomes like tradition.

For the sake of 2024 though, AK may be on the table, but not enough for both sides to make an active effort there
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« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2022, 12:09:42 AM »

NC touches GA.

It'd be hilarious how swing state AK would be handled.

I don’t get the sense both sides are going to be taking NC as seriously as they have in the past, though obv won’t triage it. It’s not necessary for Dems path, and the main reason they invested so much there in 2020 was for that Senate seat.
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« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2022, 12:37:14 AM »

It's not very isolated, and it's like a 2 hour flight from most midwestern states. Worth noting that on Nov 1, 2020 Trump campaigned in MI, IA, NC, GA, and FL all in one day.
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« Reply #5 on: November 27, 2022, 05:09:51 AM »

DeSantis, whose base is at Tallahassee, will obviously campaign frequently in GA. On the other side, DC to ATL is only 2 hour flight. I don't think Biden will give it up.
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« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2022, 10:32:57 PM »

NC touches GA.

It'd be hilarious how swing state AK would be handled.

I don’t get the sense both sides are going to be taking NC as seriously as they have in the past, though obv won’t triage it. It’s not necessary for Dems path, and the main reason they invested so much there in 2020 was for that Senate seat.

NC will still have the open Governors race getting lots of attention, particularly if Robinson is the GOP nominee.
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« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2022, 10:43:11 PM »

New Hampshire is even more isolated in terms of fairly competitive states, and the candidates always find a way to get there.
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« Reply #8 on: November 27, 2022, 11:01:35 PM »

NC touches GA.

It'd be hilarious how swing state AK would be handled.
I feel like the GOP would just forget to campaign there thinking its only worth 3 electoral votes and a solid red state and then crying "election fraud" when it randomly flips.
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« Reply #9 on: November 28, 2022, 03:35:27 PM »

Theoretically yes, but it's so important to both parties that I think it won't really make a difference.
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« Reply #10 on: November 28, 2022, 03:43:20 PM »

DeSantis will have megacoattails to Georgia and easily win it IMO.
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« Reply #11 on: November 28, 2022, 04:32:53 PM »

NC touches GA.

It'd be hilarious how swing state AK would be handled.

This.

Isolation isn't really an issue for GA.  Even with less attention on NC and FL, it's still right there in the Eastern Time Zone and has the busiest hub airport in the country.

This would become a factor if and only if it's eventually at Lean or Likely D while NC and FL are at Likely R.  It might get "triaged" sooner than a core Midwest/Mid Atlantic state would.  Consider how Virginia still gets some GOP attention and Ohio still gets some Dem attention (including a Biden visit to Cleveland the day before the election!) because they are so convenient, while you don't really see this anymore with places like Colorado.  

Alaska is interesting because on the one hand, it's only worth 3 EV, but on the other hand, it doesn't require flipping many actual votes at all to change the outcome.  
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« Reply #12 on: November 28, 2022, 10:06:40 PM »

Ask how Obama worked Montana in 2008, there's your answer.

Coincidentally the last time since '92 that the state voted left of Georgia.

That said, I'm pretty sure NC is going to carry some weight.
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« Reply #13 on: November 29, 2022, 11:43:43 PM »

Yes. Georgia must seek the backing of a Great Power if it wants to feel secure in a region where it is surrounded by enemies.
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