Opinion of recently banned poster: citizenZ

[T'Chenka]

Ever thus to deadbeats, Lebowski

[T'Chenka]

CitizenZ, were it not for the fact that he was a sock of a permabanned poster, arguably did not deserve a permaban, and he was permabanned before that fact came to light.

Some of the homophobic and transphobic things he posted on the night of his ban were deeply bigoted... on par with the worst I've seen on this forum before. He deserved at a bare minimum a several month ban for that.

[T'Chenka]

CitizenZ, were it not for the fact that he was a sock of a permabanned poster, arguably did not deserve a permaban, and he was permabanned before that fact came to light.

Some of the homophobic and transphobic things he posted on the night of his ban were deeply bigoted... on par with the worst I've seen on this forum before. He deserved at a bare minimum a several month ban for that.

I'm curious; what did Ferguson97 deserve?

2 week or less ban from USGD. I PERSONALLY don't think crossing the line and saying something inappropriate about somebody deserves a long ban, unless you've already had multiple short-term bans and you continue to cross the line repeatedly. I think longer-term bans should be reserved for extreme cases or extremely bigoted stuff, Hitler worship, pro-genocide comments, etc etc. I think hurting somebody's feelings isn't a huge of a deal as spreading hate or hateful lies. Others may disagree and that's fine.

[T'Chenka]

I'm curious; what did Ferguson97 deserve?

2 week or less ban from USGD. I PERSONALLY don't think crossing the line and saying something inappropriate about somebody deserves a long ban, unless you've already had multiple short-term bans and you continue to cross the line repeatedly. I think longer-term bans should be reserved for extreme cases or extremely bigoted stuff, Hitler worship, pro-genocide comments, etc etc. I think hurting somebody's feelings isn't a huge of a deal as spreading hate or hateful lies. Others may disagree and that's fine.

So stating that my ambition is to work as a guard at a Trans Interment Camp is OK?  Or using my family in his attack; is that OK?  Is that only deserving of a meaningless sanction?

I didn't say it was okay. I said it wasn't the kind of thing I would endorse a long-term ban for (except for repeat offense #3, #4, #5, etc etc). Yes, I would apply that same standard to all posters and all avatar colours on either side of the slander. I'm just generally not a fan of HEAVILY infracting somebody for being an a55hole. There are other punishments, such as partially losing your reputation amongst other posters, that are associated with that.

[T'Chenka]

At no time did you criticize Ferguson97 on this forum for this.  You never pointed out even the minimal standard that he hasn't even admitted fault in the matter.  You did, however, give me much flak for raising the issue of an inadequate sanction.

He's not lost any reputation, and you've helped him preserve his reputation, have you not?  And you have attacked me repeatedly for my position over this, have you not?  If this is your standard, why did you work to bring the exact opposite forth?

I haven't defended his actions. I haven't helped him preserve his reputation. I am not obligated to comment on it. I'm one out of thousands of users, and I would assume that 99% of users here don't care about my opinion on such matters. He WAS infracted and punished, and we all moved on. You should too. You have a grievance with the infraction, which has been duly noted by everybody including the moderators. It's time to move on.