Some Nevada Democrats blame party infighting for defeats

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

The DSA people in the NVDP had nothing to do with the victories or defeats, and had no impact. All the crucial party infrastructure was taken out of the party once the DSA slate won. Sisolak lost for reasons entirely unrelated to them and NV Dems had a pretty good night.

what do you mean it was taken out of thew party?

The people behind the Harry-Reid maschine shifted their people and resources towards the Washoe dem party which they still controlled. Outside organizations like the DCCC or DSCC also switched from working with the NV dem party towards the Washoe dem party.

The NVDP currently has not much influence as they have few resources or organizations willing to work with them.

What happened with the Clark County Democratic Party then?

That doesn't surprise me though because I've seen such factional infighting before. For example recently some weirdos similar to the DSA took over the Minneapolis DFL leadership. But that doesn't really matter because the Minneapolis DFL isn't really a very important organization and doesn't do much besides endorse candidates in municipal elections (and even then they've failed to endorse someone for mayor the past three elections) and make sweetheart deals with unions to get buildings and spaces to hold meetings in. That's basically all it does. The real heavy lifting in big elections is done by the 5th District DFL which answers directly to the state party. So even if the 5th District was taken over too the state party could mostly ignored them or simply take over all operations in that area directly.

[Epaminondas]

They still have control over the state legislature and several row offices so losing the Governor's race in 2022 really isn't all that bad of an L.

that is still a L

If Nevada was an L for the Democrats, can’t imagine what that makes Arizona for the GOP

Actually pretty symmetric, save for the Senate seat.
GOP won AZ legislature, majority of House seats, and most row offices (Superintendant, Treasurer, Corporation Commissioner, Mine Inspector).

But yes, the Senate seat does colour things.

[cg41386]

They still have control over the state legislature and several row offices so losing the Governor's race in 2022 really isn't all that bad of an L.

that is still a L

If Nevada was an L for the Democrats, can’t imagine what that makes Arizona for the GOP

Actually pretty symmetric, save for the Senate seat.
GOP won AZ legislature, majority of House seats, and most row offices (Superintendant, Treasurer, Corporation Commissioner, Mine Inspector).

But yes, the Senate seat does colour things.

And also flipping Governor and AG, and most likely holding SoS.

[Minnesota Mike]

https://twitter.com/RalstonReports/status/1632179198168272897

The Democratic Party old guard has taken back control of the Nevada Democratic Party from the DSA.

https://thenevadaindependent.com/article/monroe-moreno-elected-nv-dems-chair-ousts-democratic-socialist-incumbent

[Lief 🗽]

Wonderful news! Let’s hope everyone has learned their lesson here. Unfortunately too late for Sisolak, who was no doubt brought down by these clowns.

[Born to Slay. Forced to Work.]

The name Monroe-Moreno seems especially designed to confuse my dyslexic brain

[smoltchanov]

Wonderful news! Let’s hope everyone has learned their lesson here. Unfortunately too late for Sisolak, who was no doubt brought down by these clowns.

+101%

[GM Team Member and Senator WB]

Wonderful news! Let’s hope everyone has learned their lesson here. Unfortunately too late for Sisolak, who was no doubt brought down by these clowns.

he was brought down by his own bad policy. There's a reason the culinary union (a key piece of the Reid Machine!) didn't really support him. IIRC many of their members didn't vote there, or even voted Lombardo. The machine operated almost entirely separately from the party, and is a big part of why pretty much everyone else won.

[RussFeingoldWasRobbed]

Wonderful news! Let’s hope everyone has learned their lesson here. Unfortunately too late for Sisolak, who was no doubt brought down by these clowns.

Sisolak literally instituted harsh c0vid restrictions in a state that is known for having industries that couldn't handle it.  He was doomed regardless

[SnowLabrador]

Wonderful news! Let’s hope everyone has learned their lesson here. Unfortunately too late for Sisolak, who was no doubt brought down by these clowns.

Sisolak literally instituted harsh c0vid restrictions in a state that is known for having industries that couldn't handle it.  He was doomed regardless

COVID brought our health systems (to the extent that they exist) to our knees for three years, and is still doing so. I agree that Sisolak's COVID response was instrumental in his loss, I'm just pointing out that it's very unfortunate that he was voted out for doing the responsible thing. It shows there may truly be no hope for this nation.

[Stand With Israel. Crush Hamas]

Wonderful news! Let’s hope everyone has learned their lesson here. Unfortunately too late for Sisolak, who was no doubt brought down by these clowns.

Sisolak literally instituted harsh c0vid restrictions in a state that is known for having industries that couldn't handle it.  He was doomed regardless

COVID brought our health systems (to the extent that they exist) to our knees for three years, and is still doing so. I agree that Sisolak's COVID response was instrumental in his loss, I'm just pointing out that it's very unfortunate that he was voted out for doing the responsible thing. It shows there may truly be no hope for this nation.

The American "lockdowns" did not help to prevent the spread of Covid in any meaningful way, and Governors who relied too heavily on them paid a deserved price at the ballot box.

[RussFeingoldWasRobbed]

Wonderful news! Let’s hope everyone has learned their lesson here. Unfortunately too late for Sisolak, who was no doubt brought down by these clowns.

Sisolak literally instituted harsh c0vid restrictions in a state that is known for having industries that couldn't handle it.  He was doomed regardless

COVID brought our health systems (to the extent that they exist) to our knees for three years, and is still doing so. I agree that Sisolak's COVID response was instrumental in his loss, I'm just pointing out that it's very unfortunate that he was voted out for doing the responsible thing. It shows there may truly be no hope for this nation.

The American "lockdowns" did not help to prevent the spread of Covid in any meaningful way, and Governors who relied too heavily on them paid a deserved price at the ballot box.

Inb4 MUH Gretchen Whitmer!(Ignoring the fact that she was bolstered by a republican candidate who opposed an initiative overwhelmingly supported by the public)

[Duke of York]

Wonderful news! Let’s hope everyone has learned their lesson here. Unfortunately too late for Sisolak, who was no doubt brought down by these clowns.

Sisolak literally instituted harsh c0vid restrictions in a state that is known for having industries that couldn't handle it.  He was doomed regardless

COVID brought our health systems (to the extent that they exist) to our knees for three years, and is still doing so. I agree that Sisolak's COVID response was instrumental in his loss, I'm just pointing out that it's very unfortunate that he was voted out for doing the responsible thing. It shows there may truly be no hope for this nation.

The American "lockdowns" did not help to prevent the spread of Covid in any meaningful way, and Governors who relied too heavily on them paid a deserved price at the ballot box.

Sisolak was the only incumbent governor to lose reelection

[RussFeingoldWasRobbed]

Wonderful news! Let’s hope everyone has learned their lesson here. Unfortunately too late for Sisolak, who was no doubt brought down by these clowns.

Sisolak literally instituted harsh c0vid restrictions in a state that is known for having industries that couldn't handle it.  He was doomed regardless

COVID brought our health systems (to the extent that they exist) to our knees for three years, and is still doing so. I agree that Sisolak's COVID response was instrumental in his loss, I'm just pointing out that it's very unfortunate that he was voted out for doing the responsible thing. It shows there may truly be no hope for this nation.

The American "lockdowns" did not help to prevent the spread of Covid in any meaningful way, and Governors who relied too heavily on them paid a deserved price at the ballot box.

Sisolak was the only incumbent governor to lose reelection

Doesn't that only further support his theory? Like I said, Whitmer had abortion in her cards to play and it worked. Sisolak didn't have that.

[Spectator]

Wonderful news! Let’s hope everyone has learned their lesson here. Unfortunately too late for Sisolak, who was no doubt brought down by these clowns.

Sisolak literally instituted harsh c0vid restrictions in a state that is known for having industries that couldn't handle it.  He was doomed regardless

He’s lucky enough to have come as close to winning as he did.

[Stand With Israel. Crush Hamas]

Wonderful news! Let’s hope everyone has learned their lesson here. Unfortunately too late for Sisolak, who was no doubt brought down by these clowns.

Sisolak literally instituted harsh c0vid restrictions in a state that is known for having industries that couldn't handle it.  He was doomed regardless

COVID brought our health systems (to the extent that they exist) to our knees for three years, and is still doing so. I agree that Sisolak's COVID response was instrumental in his loss, I'm just pointing out that it's very unfortunate that he was voted out for doing the responsible thing. It shows there may truly be no hope for this nation.

The American "lockdowns" did not help to prevent the spread of Covid in any meaningful way, and Governors who relied too heavily on them paid a deserved price at the ballot box.

Inb4 MUH Gretchen Whitmer!(Ignoring the fact that she was bolstered by a republican candidate who opposed an initiative overwhelmingly supported by the public)

Yeah, most polls showed Whitmer in a tough race before she got the most incompetent possible opponent.

Really, the Governor who made this the clearest was Murphy, who was expected to win by 15 and instead spent days sweating out a victory. Some states were definitely too Blue for it to actually flip the race, but it had an impact just about everywhere.

[Хahar 🤔]

Wonderful news! Let’s hope everyone has learned their lesson here. Unfortunately too late for Sisolak, who was no doubt brought down by these clowns.

Sisolak literally instituted harsh c0vid restrictions in a state that is known for having industries that couldn't handle it.  He was doomed regardless

COVID brought our health systems (to the extent that they exist) to our knees for three years, and is still doing so. I agree that Sisolak's COVID response was instrumental in his loss, I'm just pointing out that it's very unfortunate that he was voted out for doing the responsible thing. It shows there may truly be no hope for this nation.

The American "lockdowns" did not help to prevent the spread of Covid in any meaningful way, and Governors who relied too heavily on them paid a deserved price at the ballot box.

Inb4 MUH Gretchen Whitmer!(Ignoring the fact that she was bolstered by a republican candidate who opposed an initiative overwhelmingly supported by the public)

Yeah, most polls showed Whitmer in a tough race before she got the most incompetent possible opponent.

Really, the Governor who made this the clearest was Murphy, who was expected to win by 15 and instead spent days sweating out a victory. Some states were definitely too Blue for it to actually flip the race, but it had an impact just about everywhere.

Just prior to this, Gavin Newsom won the largest victory for a Democrat in California history after a campaign that was entirely about his handling of the pandemic. I have made it clear many times on this forum that I did not like the restrictions that Democratic governors imposed, but there is no evidence that these restrictions hurt them at the ballot box. The obvious conclusion is that the scope of restrictions had no particular electoral impact.

[RussFeingoldWasRobbed]

Wonderful news! Let’s hope everyone has learned their lesson here. Unfortunately too late for Sisolak, who was no doubt brought down by these clowns.

Sisolak literally instituted harsh c0vid restrictions in a state that is known for having industries that couldn't handle it.  He was doomed regardless

COVID brought our health systems (to the extent that they exist) to our knees for three years, and is still doing so. I agree that Sisolak's COVID response was instrumental in his loss, I'm just pointing out that it's very unfortunate that he was voted out for doing the responsible thing. It shows there may truly be no hope for this nation.

The American "lockdowns" did not help to prevent the spread of Covid in any meaningful way, and Governors who relied too heavily on them paid a deserved price at the ballot box.

Inb4 MUH Gretchen Whitmer!(Ignoring the fact that she was bolstered by a republican candidate who opposed an initiative overwhelmingly supported by the public)

Yeah, most polls showed Whitmer in a tough race before she got the most incompetent possible opponent.

Really, the Governor who made this the clearest was Murphy, who was expected to win by 15 and instead spent days sweating out a victory. Some states were definitely too Blue for it to actually flip the race, but it had an impact just about everywhere.

Just prior to this, Gavin Newsom won the largest victory for a Democrat in California history after a campaign that was entirely about his handling of the pandemic. I have made it clear many times on this forum that I did not like the restrictions that Democratic governors imposed, but there is no evidence that these restrictions hurt them at the ballot box. The obvious conclusion is that the scope of restrictions had no particular electoral impact.

Newsoms opponent was a right wing clown that wanted to abolish the minimum wage.  The GOP had no chance with him

[Progressive Pessimist]

"Defeats" is an interesting choice of words since the only real casualty was Sisolak from last year's elections. The elections that mattered, all the congressional ones, went better than expected. So if this was a disappointing showing for Democrats in Nevada then the state has a more stubborn Democratic floor than it's often attributed as having.

That said, if this new party leadership is indeed more competent and can make future victories less close, then this will still be a welcome development.

[RussFeingoldWasRobbed]

Wonderful news! Let’s hope everyone has learned their lesson here. Unfortunately too late for Sisolak, who was no doubt brought down by these clowns.

Sisolak literally instituted harsh c0vid restrictions in a state that is known for having industries that couldn't handle it.  He was doomed regardless

COVID brought our health systems (to the extent that they exist) to our knees for three years, and is still doing so. I agree that Sisolak's COVID response was instrumental in his loss, I'm just pointing out that it's very unfortunate that he was voted out for doing the responsible thing. It shows there may truly be no hope for this nation.

The American "lockdowns" did not help to prevent the spread of Covid in any meaningful way, and Governors who relied too heavily on them paid a deserved price at the ballot box.

Inb4 MUH Gretchen Whitmer!(Ignoring the fact that she was bolstered by a republican candidate who opposed an initiative overwhelmingly supported by the public)

Yeah, most polls showed Whitmer in a tough race before she got the most incompetent possible opponent.

Really, the Governor who made this the clearest was Murphy, who was expected to win by 15 and instead spent days sweating out a victory. Some states were definitely too Blue for it to actually flip the race, but it had an impact just about everywhere.

I would have expected MLG to do worse though

[Badger]

The DSA people in the NVDP had nothing to do with the victories or defeats, and had no impact. All the crucial party infrastructure was taken out of the party once the DSA slate won. Sisolak lost for reasons entirely unrelated to them and NV Dems had a pretty good night.

And let's be more specific here. Even the DSA didn't endorse they're previously aligned State party chair for re-election. She was by all counts disorganized, bad at fundraising, and all around terrible at her job. This had far more to do with an incompetent leader and her top AIDS rather than some sort of party split between the leftist Sanders supporters versus The Culinary Union machine, blah blah blah. Those individual members are pretty damn close on policy and goals.