Assume this is the 2016 map (Clinton vs. Trump). What happened?
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  Assume this is the 2016 map (Clinton vs. Trump). What happened?
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WalterWhite
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« on: July 22, 2023, 05:07:53 PM »



Assume the electoral vote totals per state are 2012-2020 numbers, not 2024-2028 numbers.
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« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2023, 12:26:53 AM »

This site has a built-in map generator so that you don't have to use the wrong electoral vote counts: https://talkelections.org/FORUM/index.php?action=evcalc

Here's the scenario you created:



Hopefully this helps.
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« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2023, 12:14:54 PM »

This site has a built-in map generator so that you don't have to use the wrong electoral vote counts: https://talkelections.org/FORUM/index.php?action=evcalc

Here's the scenario you created:



Hopefully this helps.

So what must have happened for that to be the 2016 map
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« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2023, 12:18:14 PM »

This site has a built-in map generator so that you don't have to use the wrong electoral vote counts: https://talkelections.org/FORUM/index.php?action=evcalc

Here's the scenario you created:



Hopefully this helps.

So what must have happened for that to be the 2016 map

Hillary became Senator of Arkansas after 2000 instead of New York - and continued to have roots there. Maybe this leads to the state being not as red by 2016 and is one last gasp from AR Dems.

Fast forward: Biden wins with IRL map in 2020, but crashes hard in AR.
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« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2023, 01:49:19 PM »

This site has a built-in map generator so that you don't have to use the wrong electoral vote counts: https://talkelections.org/FORUM/index.php?action=evcalc

Here's the scenario you created:



Hopefully this helps.

So what must have happened for that to be the 2016 map

Hillary became Senator of Arkansas after 2000 instead of New York - and continued to have roots there. Maybe this leads to the state being not as red by 2016 and is one last gasp from AR Dems.

Fast forward: Biden wins with IRL map in 2020, but crashes hard in AR.

And why would Nevada go Republican in this scenario?
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« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2023, 08:03:54 PM »

This site has a built-in map generator so that you don't have to use the wrong electoral vote counts: https://talkelections.org/FORUM/index.php?action=evcalc

Here's the scenario you created:



Hopefully this helps.

So what must have happened for that to be the 2016 map

Hillary became Senator of Arkansas after 2000 instead of New York - and continued to have roots there. Maybe this leads to the state being not as red by 2016 and is one last gasp from AR Dems.

Fast forward: Biden wins with IRL map in 2020, but crashes hard in AR.

And why would Nevada go Republican in this scenario?

This was the start of the 306 curse. So Hillary had to lose NV to gain AR
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