C4G WPAintel: Desantis +11 in IA +15 in NH +26 in FL +20 in GA
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« on: November 14, 2022, 05:25:48 PM »
« edited: November 14, 2022, 05:29:45 PM by Canis »

C4G is Desantis aligned (or at least anti-trump) but these numbers are catastrophic for Trump
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« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2022, 05:27:41 PM »

This is some pretty profound change if true. I think Trump's humiliating campaign announcement tomorrow will accelerate DeSantis's momentum.
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« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2022, 05:30:32 PM »

C4G is Desantis aligned (or at least anti-trump, but these numbers are catastrophic for Trump

What is surprising is the evenness of the results.

But will DeSantis run if he's not sure of victory in the General against the Democrats?
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« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2022, 05:36:48 PM »

C4G is Desantis aligned (or at least anti-trump, but these numbers are catastrophic for Trump

What is surprising is the evenness of the results.

But will DeSantis run if he's not sure of victory in the General against the Democrats?

Nobody's ever sure of a victory in the General. People who are that cautious don't usually run for office at all, let alone the presidency.
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« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2022, 05:37:22 PM »

C4G is Desantis aligned (or at least anti-trump, but these numbers are catastrophic for Trump

What is surprising is the evenness of the results.

But will DeSantis run if he's not sure of victory in the General against the Democrats?
Desantis is leading by double-digits in every state they polled, that's not even lol
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« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2022, 05:56:36 PM »

C4G is Desantis aligned (or at least anti-trump, but these numbers are catastrophic for Trump

What is surprising is the evenness of the results.

But will DeSantis run if he's not sure of victory in the General against the Democrats?

Nobody's ever sure of a victory in the General. People who are that cautious don't usually run for office at all, let alone the presidency.
But they only have one shot to the Presidency once they are the nominee, if they miss the first time it's curtains.

Remember no heavyweight Democrat wanted to run agaist against Bush Snr. in 1992 until it was too late.
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« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2022, 05:57:42 PM »

C4G is Desantis aligned (or at least anti-trump, but these numbers are catastrophic for Trump

What is surprising is the evenness of the results.

But will DeSantis run if he's not sure of victory in the General against the Democrats?

Nobody's ever sure of a victory in the General. People who are that cautious don't usually run for office at all, let alone the presidency.
But they only have one shot to the Presidency once they are the nominee, if they miss the first time it's curtains.

Remember no heavyweight Democrat wanted to run agaist against Bush Snr. in 1992 until it was too late.

DeSantis has nowhere to go immediately after his term is up in Florida. 2024 is the time.
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« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2022, 06:18:02 PM »

Regardless in his shoes I would wait until June, to see how the economy was going.
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« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2022, 06:22:31 PM »

Wow stunning numbers.
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« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2022, 06:23:25 PM »

If that NH number is even close to being true, Trump is cooked. The southern suburbs seem like DeSantis territory so GA isn't a surprise, and Trump lost the IA caucus last time and definitely is bleeding support with the staunch conservative base. But the northeast is basically Trump's base in an R primary, they definitely preferred his more independent populist persona to Cruz's conservatism last time.

I think these numbers are probably exaggerated but if he isn't winning NH in a walk then this isn't looking good for him in any way shape or form. Hell I'd say even if you give Trump the strongest benefit of the doubt and completely reverse the number, making it Trump 52-37, it's still awful for him.
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« Reply #10 on: November 14, 2022, 07:43:37 PM »

This is great news, but keep in mind this is a head to head. Throw a couple of other Trump alternatives in the mix - Scott, Haley, Youngkin, Noem, Hogan, etc., and the DeSantis edge goes down quickly and suddenly Trump is viable again. That's why, like I said in another post, DeSantis needs to be on the phone with those other potential candidates and cutting deals now, before he gets in.
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« Reply #11 on: November 14, 2022, 10:23:19 PM »

WOW.

Is Trump finally toast?
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