Is abortion a losing issue for Republicans?

[HisGrace]

I think you could argue it was a winning issue Roe. V Wade was in force because it created a wedge issue for single issue voters hoping it would get overturned. Now that it's happened I don't think you can argue that it didn't play into their underperformance last night, particularly their issues in the white suburbs. Pro choice center right women (or ones who at least think things like heartbeat bans are insane), parents worried about what might happen if their daughter gets pregnant, exc

[politics_king]

Is water wet?

[Burke Bro]

I realize that a political party isn't going to bring about the end of abortion in America.  That will only come by doing the hard work of showing people What God says on the subject.  More importantly, we will have to do the hard work of enabling people to have an encounter with God so that they can be won to Christ.

     Believing that our problems can be solved politically has probably been the greatest failure of American Christianity. The problems we face are spiritual in nature, and passing laws, while not worthless, won't be sufficient to fix them. Repentance more than anything is needed.

This. Laws only do so much. At the end of the day, changing hearts is more important. Given the opportunity for Christian conservatives to put Trump in the past and correct their hypocrisies that presently make them so unappealing to the general public, there is an huge opportunity to reach out to a generation of Americans who feel lost and hopeless in this morally deficient society created by their parents and grandparents.

[T'Chenka]

the opportunity for Christian conservatives to put Trump in the past and correct their hypocrisies that presently make them so unappealing to the general public

If you actually think the MAGA "christian" conservatives have any chance whatsoever of actually doing this, I have a bridge to sell you.

[bagelman]

Fully banning abortions with no exceptions for rape or incest is a totally losing issue. Most Americans aren't 100% pro-life or pro-choice, they are not going to support forcing a rape baby to term and they are not going to support aborting a baby in the third trimester without health problems. Democrats pounced on the abortion issue and Republicans could have parried this by moderating on the issue, but they chose to appeal to their bible thumping base instead and paid the price.

[OSR stands with Israel]

How the hell did the average voter in Kentucky end up being to the left of me on a major social issue . I always thought my views were pretty in line with the center right

[Joe Republic]

How the hell did the average voter in Kentucky end up being to the left of me on a major social issue . I always thought my views were pretty in line with the center right

Spend less time on ConservaCord.

[GP270watch]

I realize that a political party isn't going to bring about the end of abortion in America.  That will only come by doing the hard work of showing people What God says on the subject.  More importantly, we will have to do the hard work of enabling people to have an encounter with God so that they can be won to Christ.

     Believing that our problems can be solved politically has probably been the greatest failure of American Christianity. The problems we face are spiritual in nature, and passing laws, while not worthless, won't be sufficient to fix them. Repentance more than anything is needed.

This. Laws only do so much. At the end of the day, changing hearts is more important. Given the opportunity for Christian conservatives to put Trump in the past and correct their hypocrisies that presently make them so unappealing to the general public, there is an huge opportunity to reach out to a generation of Americans who feel lost and hopeless in this morally deficient society created by their parents and grandparents.

 What aspects of Donald Trump's life reflect any of the teachings of Jesus Christ?

Now people who were the biggest Trump cheerleaders like Fuzzy who excused his behaviors because he would pass laws and appoint judges are claiming that it's not about laws, political parties, and judges. You guys are all over the place and the true hypocrites.

 So many of you supported the lustful, greedy, narcissist, for political gain. What do you stand for? Nothing!

[John Dule]

I realize that a political party isn't going to bring about the end of abortion in America.  That will only come by doing the hard work of showing people What God says on the subject.  More importantly, we will have to do the hard work of enabling people to have an encounter with God so that they can be won to Christ.

     Believing that our problems can be solved politically has probably been the greatest failure of American Christianity. The problems we face are spiritual in nature, and passing laws, while not worthless, won't be sufficient to fix them. Repentance more than anything is needed.

This. Laws only do so much. At the end of the day, changing hearts is more important. Given the opportunity for Christian conservatives to put Trump in the past and correct their hypocrisies that presently make them so unappealing to the general public, there is an huge opportunity to reach out to a generation of Americans who feel lost and hopeless in this morally deficient society created by their parents and grandparents.

Our morally deficient society is overwhelmingly the responsibility of Christians.

[head pilot of woke air force one]

Not only is abortion access more popular at large than American society realizes, but it's an unbelievably age-polarized issue. Awful combination of "pretty popular, and more popular every day" for the GOP.

For all of the talk of how boomers are alienated by 2020s-era progressivism, between abortion, climate change, gay-rights, it's *really* hard to imagine a worse political home for the average person under 40 than the Republican Party. Abortion is a third rail with young people in a similar way to social security and medicare are to people over 60.

This. Laws only do so much. At the end of the day, changing hearts is more important. Given the opportunity for Christian conservatives to put Trump in the past and correct their hypocrisies that presently make them so unappealing to the general public, there is an huge opportunity to reach out to a generation of Americans who feel lost and hopeless in this morally deficient society created by their parents and grandparents.

Our morally deficient society is overwhelmingly the responsibility of Christians.

Yeah but I think this is more correlation than causation.

[I Will Not Be Wrong]

How should Republicans handle abortion in the next couple years?

[T'Chenka]

How should Republicans handle abortion in the next couple years?

If they run on bans after 15 weeks with rape and incest exceptions, they might do okay, maybe.

[Hermit For Peace]

How should Republicans handle abortion in the next couple years?

Get in touch with reality. Stop trying to dominate women's lives. It will never work.

Get your noses out of a woman's personal health-related business and put it on issues that affect all Americans in the here and now.

Guys get to keep their guns and women get to keep their personal freedom of choice when it comes to abortion.

Until the Republicans understand some basic facts, they will continue to lose bigly at this issue.

[TheReckoning]

Not only is abortion access more popular at large than American society realizes, but it's an unbelievably age-polarized issue. Awful combination of "pretty popular, and more popular every day" for the GOP.

For all of the talk of how boomers are alienated by 2020s-era progressivism, between abortion, climate change, gay-rights, it's *really* hard to imagine a worse political home for the average person under 40 than the Republican Party. Abortion is a third rail with young people in a similar way to social security and medicare are to people over 60.

How could this possibly be the case, given Trump’s strength with younger voters according to polls?

[Meclazine for Israel]

It was a losing issue until Biden said this during the debate.....

"Look, there’s so many young women who have been – including a young woman who just was murdered and he went to the funeral. The idea that she was murdered by – by – by an immigrant coming in and (inaudible) talk about that.

But here’s the deal, there’s a lot of young women who are being raped by their – by their in-laws, by their – by their spouses, brothers and sisters, by – just – it’s just – it’s just ridiculous."

May as well hand Trump the keys now.

[Person Man]

Not only is abortion access more popular at large than American society realizes, but it's an unbelievably age-polarized issue. Awful combination of "pretty popular, and more popular every day" for the GOP.

For all of the talk of how boomers are alienated by 2020s-era progressivism, between abortion, climate change, gay-rights, it's *really* hard to imagine a worse political home for the average person under 40 than the Republican Party. Abortion is a third rail with young people in a similar way to social security and medicare are to people over 60.

This. Laws only do so much. At the end of the day, changing hearts is more important. Given the opportunity for Christian conservatives to put Trump in the past and correct their hypocrisies that presently make them so unappealing to the general public, there is an huge opportunity to reach out to a generation of Americans who feel lost and hopeless in this morally deficient society created by their parents and grandparents.

Our morally deficient society is overwhelmingly the responsibility of Christians.

Yeah but I think this is more correlation than causation.

At least this is what I want to think.

[Reactionary Libertarian]

Not only is abortion access more popular at large than American society realizes, but it's an unbelievably age-polarized issue. Awful combination of "pretty popular, and more popular every day" for the GOP.

For all of the talk of how boomers are alienated by 2020s-era progressivism, between abortion, climate change, gay-rights, it's *really* hard to imagine a worse political home for the average person under 40 than the Republican Party. Abortion is a third rail with young people in a similar way to social security and medicare are to people over 60.

How could this possibly be the case, given Trump’s strength with younger voters according to polls?

1) Polls are overestimating Trump with young voters
2) Trump is the Republican most moderate on abortion, and Biden isn’t the best Democrat to campaign on it