AZ-SEN (Suffolk): Maricopa County - Kelly +1
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« on: November 07, 2022, 12:21:33 PM »
« edited: November 07, 2022, 12:26:58 PM by wbrocks67 »

Maricopa County, AZ (Biden +3, Kelly +4)
Kelly (D) 48%
Masters (R) 47%

Note - 2020 recall here is Biden +1

https://www.suffolk.edu/academics/research-at-suffolk/political-research-center/polls/other-states
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« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2022, 12:25:04 PM »
« Edited: November 07, 2022, 12:33:39 PM by 2016 »

If Kelly wins Maricopa only by 1 he is TOAST because Blake Masters will almost certainly will with a 100 % degree of confidence do a little bit better than Trump in Pima County.

Kelly won Maricopa County 51.9 to 48.0 in 2020, a raw vote margin of 80,000 Votes.
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« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2022, 01:09:44 PM »

This isn't a great poll for Kelly.
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« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2022, 01:29:41 PM »

No doubt this will be a close one.
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« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2022, 01:38:41 PM »

Quite probably. Masters has a chance, though I think the most likely result is Kelly winning by very low single digits.
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« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2022, 01:39:22 PM »

I'm pessimistic but hopeful about this race.
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« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2022, 01:45:17 PM »

I saw “AZ-Sen (Suffolk) - Ma….” and clicked.

I’m disappointed
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« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2022, 01:51:26 PM »

I saw “AZ-Sen (Suffolk) - Ma….” and clicked.

I’m disappointed

Masters still hasn’t led in a poll. If he wins, polling doesn’t work or at any rate, something is happening and it shouldn’t be happening.
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« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2022, 01:53:32 PM »

It's a small sample, but it has 18-34 year olds voting for Masters and Hobbs. Weird combo lol
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« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2022, 01:59:08 PM »

I saw “AZ-Sen (Suffolk) - Ma….” and clicked.

I’m disappointed

Masters still hasn’t led in a poll. If he wins, polling doesn’t work or at any rate, something is happening and it shouldn’t be happening.

He lead in Emerson.
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« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2022, 02:01:07 PM »

I saw “AZ-Sen (Suffolk) - Ma….” and clicked.

I’m disappointed

Masters still hasn’t led in a poll. If he wins, polling doesn’t work or at any rate, something is happening and it shouldn’t be happening.

The "Masters hasn't led in a poll" talking point is ubiquitous, but doesn't really matter.  He's within the margin of error, and polling is not an exact science.  If someone is down by 2 points in the polling average and then they win by 1 point, that is not a systemic polling error.
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« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2022, 02:01:58 PM »

I saw “AZ-Sen (Suffolk) - Ma….” and clicked.

I’m disappointed

Masters still hasn’t led in a poll. If he wins, polling doesn’t work or at any rate, something is happening and it shouldn’t be happening.
He led ever so slightly in Emerson.
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« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2022, 02:05:11 PM »

I saw “AZ-Sen (Suffolk) - Ma….” and clicked.

I’m disappointed

Masters still hasn’t led in a poll. If he wins, polling doesn’t work or at any rate, something is happening and it shouldn’t be happening.

The "Masters hasn't led in a poll" talking point is ubiquitous, but doesn't really matter.  He's within the margin of error, and polling is not an exact science.  If someone is down by 2 points in the polling average and then they win by 1 point, that is not a systemic polling error.
Yep.
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« Reply #13 on: November 22, 2022, 09:50:08 AM »

It seems Democrats actually over performed in all of the county polls that Suffolk did.
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« Reply #14 on: November 24, 2022, 06:11:27 AM »

If Kelly wins Maricopa only by 1 he is TOAST because Blake Masters will almost certainly will with a 100 % degree of confidence do a little bit better than Trump in Pima County.

Kelly won Maricopa County 51.9 to 48.0 in 2020, a raw vote margin of 80,000 Votes.

He ended up underperforming Trump by 7%. LOL.
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« Reply #15 on: November 25, 2022, 09:28:59 AM »

County polls are garbage. News at 11. They overestimate/underestimate constantly
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« Reply #16 on: November 25, 2022, 01:37:44 PM »

Well, I don’t ever think Arizona will be like Colorado for this and next decade, but it will be roughly on par with Pennsylvania, Michigan, and New Hampshire. Maybe Minnesota.
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« Reply #17 on: November 25, 2022, 01:50:10 PM »

Well, I don’t ever think Arizona will be like Colorado for this and next decade, but it will be roughly on par with Pennsylvania, Michigan, and New Hampshire. Maybe Minnesota.

PA, MI, and NH all seem kind of different, though? MI has clearly had a sustained Democratic bounce-back since Trump was sworn in; NH has a locally very strong GOP even as they do poorly up-ballot; and PA if anything has mostly continued trending right, even if Oz/Mastriano were an unreally bad ticket.

AZ seems like it's continuing to trend left, but it also had a pretty bad GOP ticket and even 2022 showed evidence that the Democratic floor there is pretty low.
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« Reply #18 on: November 25, 2022, 06:50:25 PM »

Well, I don’t ever think Arizona will be like Colorado for this and next decade, but it will be roughly on par with Pennsylvania, Michigan, and New Hampshire. Maybe Minnesota.

PA, MI, and NH all seem kind of different, though? MI has clearly had a sustained Democratic bounce-back since Trump was sworn in; NH has a locally very strong GOP even as they do poorly up-ballot; and PA if anything has mostly continued trending right, even if Oz/Mastriano were an unreally bad ticket.

AZ seems like it's continuing to trend left, but it also had a pretty bad GOP ticket and even 2022 showed evidence that the Democratic floor there is pretty low.


Not literally but what I am trying to say is that Democrats will probably need to carry Arizona going forward to be competitive.
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« Reply #19 on: November 25, 2022, 07:53:48 PM »

People keep saying Pennsylvania is trending right and yet all of the biggest population areas in the state are trending blue. There is not many more areas that Republicans are not maxed out basically, while Democrats continue to have room for growth in places like Allegheny and the suburbs (Philly, Harrisburg, and Pittsburgh)

This election also showed Dems still have ancestral strength in Erie, Lackawanna, etc.
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« Reply #20 on: November 26, 2022, 09:40:54 AM »

It was a shift to the right because Corbett and Toomey got elected but it's still a D state and so is WI and MI, but the only reason why WI voted for JOHNSON due to R gerrymandering unlike in MI and PA their Gerrymandering is like to OH and Iowa
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« Reply #21 on: November 28, 2022, 12:41:56 AM »

People keep saying Pennsylvania is trending right and yet all of the biggest population areas in the state are trending blue. There is not many more areas that Republicans are not maxed out basically, while Democrats continue to have room for growth in places like Allegheny and the suburbs (Philly, Harrisburg, and Pittsburgh)

This election also showed Dems still have ancestral strength in Erie, Lackawanna, etc.
Of the “big three” Michigan probably is the most likely to trend R despite its seeming bounce back while PA seems most favorable for Ds long term. Don’t forget Lancaster as a likely D trending area, it will be a meme when it finally flips. Shapiro was so close but alas no cigar.
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