MN Gov (KSTP/SUSA): Walz 51 - Jensen 43
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« on: November 01, 2022, 05:04:43 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2022, 05:06:20 PM »

Republicans lead AG, Auditor races, Democrat SOS.

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« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2022, 05:07:50 PM »

The Governor numbers look right but I'd be surprised if Ellison is underrunning Walz that much...still not good.
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« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2022, 05:11:26 PM »

Ellison doing so badly makes me feel better about Walz honestly.
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« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2022, 05:16:18 PM »

Jenson and Crocket are batsh**t crazy, Shultz and Wilson are plain vanilla. Boring Republicans do better in Minnesota.
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« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2022, 05:17:35 PM »

I think Ellison is going to lose.
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« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2022, 05:37:13 PM »

Didn't Trafalgar have Jensen ahead
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« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2022, 06:08:50 PM »

Reminder Ellison did trail by the same margin in a 2018 poll: https://talkelections.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=304615.0
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« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2022, 07:12:32 PM »

Crosstabs:

https://kstp.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/KSTP-SurveyUSA-election-poll-11-1-22.pdf

They are projecting a Republican leaning electorate, R+3 party affiliation and Trump +2 recalled 2020 vote. I will just say I'm skeptical about that.
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« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2022, 07:19:18 PM »

Crosstabs:

https://kstp.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/KSTP-SurveyUSA-election-poll-11-1-22.pdf

They are projecting a Republican leaning electorate, R+3 party affiliation and Trump +2 recalled 2020 vote. I will just say I'm skeptical about that.

This was the same issue with their NY poll - party ID (based on state reg) and 2020 vote recall were both much more R.
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« Reply #10 on: November 01, 2022, 07:39:22 PM »

I forgot that Trafalgar also had Jensen +1 here.
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« Reply #11 on: November 01, 2022, 07:45:31 PM »

I forgot that Trafalgar also had Jensen +1 here.

why is everyone bringing Trafalgar up? Are they the only pollster that matters?
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« Reply #12 on: November 01, 2022, 09:02:03 PM »

2016 said they are the most accurate Pollster
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« Reply #13 on: November 01, 2022, 09:15:12 PM »
« Edited: November 01, 2022, 09:31:59 PM by Duke of York »

2016 said they are the most accurate Pollster


And they were not good in 2018 or 2020.
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« Reply #14 on: November 01, 2022, 09:30:56 PM »

The poll literally has Walz ahead by 8 points and yall are saying the crosstabs are r biased? Jesus christ almighty!
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« Reply #15 on: November 01, 2022, 10:47:30 PM »

Well I do like one thing in these crosstabs. Under religion:

Catholic
Jensen - 52
Walz - 45

Protestant
Jensen - 47
Walz - 49

Freedom subsample!
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« Reply #16 on: November 02, 2022, 12:02:37 AM »

Well I do like one thing in these crosstabs. Under religion:

Catholic
Jensen - 52
Walz - 45

Protestant
Jensen - 47
Walz - 49

Freedom subsample!

I wonder how much of this is driven by black Protestants. Seems to me Minnesota's white Catholic population is still relatively more urban than its white Protestant population, especially MN-7/8 rural counties that have swung right.

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« Reply #17 on: November 02, 2022, 09:27:45 AM »

The poll literally has Walz ahead by 8 points and yall are saying the crosstabs are r biased? Jesus christ almighty!

Our Minnesota posters seem to be firmly convinced that Ellison will win reelection. If he does, that would be a major polling error in favor of the Democrats.
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« Reply #18 on: November 02, 2022, 12:45:56 PM »

God love our state. Cheesy

Also, I don't understand why critiquing crosstabs is so hated around here. Taking a deeper dive into numbers is a good way to see if a poll is fully reflective the electorate. Yes, I want Ellison to win too. Yes, I believe he's way more endangered than Walz and Simon. No, I don't think our electorate is going to be R+3, like Minnesota Mike said above me.
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« Reply #19 on: November 02, 2022, 02:09:44 PM »

Survey USA is not a good pollster. It's good Walz is leading this much with that much of an R electorate. Ellison is in for a close race but I doubt he loses he's probably gonna win by an underwhelming margin again.
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« Reply #20 on: November 02, 2022, 02:15:30 PM »

The poll literally has Walz ahead by 8 points and yall are saying the crosstabs are r biased? Jesus christ almighty!

Our Minnesota posters seem to be firmly convinced that Ellison will win reelection. If he does, that would be a major polling error in favor of the Democrats.

I don't believe I have ever said Ellison is more than a slight favorite. Right now I think it's a tossup and anyone who predicts the race with confidence is lying.
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« Reply #21 on: November 03, 2022, 04:51:00 PM »

The poll literally has Walz ahead by 8 points and yall are saying the crosstabs are r biased? Jesus christ almighty!

Our Minnesota posters seem to be firmly convinced that Ellison will win reelection. If he does, that would be a major polling error in favor of the Democrats.

I don't believe I have ever said Ellison is more than a slight favorite. Right now I think it's a tossup and anyone who predicts the race with confidence is lying.
I agree. I'm not saying Ellison will win so much as it's very unlikely he underruns Walz by 9 points.
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« Reply #22 on: November 03, 2022, 05:05:15 PM »

Makes sense.
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« Reply #23 on: November 04, 2022, 11:50:54 AM »

The poll literally has Walz ahead by 8 points and yall are saying the crosstabs are r biased? Jesus christ almighty!

Our Minnesota posters seem to be firmly convinced that Ellison will win reelection. If he does, that would be a major polling error in favor of the Democrats.

I don't believe I have ever said Ellison is more than a slight favorite. Right now I think it's a tossup and anyone who predicts the race with confidence is lying.

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« Reply #24 on: December 14, 2022, 12:57:16 PM »

They nailed the GOV race but totally whiffed on Auditor and AG
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