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« Reply #25 on: September 22, 2008, 04:34:31 PM »

It's back! Smiley
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« Reply #26 on: September 22, 2008, 07:42:55 PM »

Glad to see you have started this interesting TL once again Earl Smiley
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« Reply #27 on: September 22, 2008, 11:42:29 PM »

During de Boucherville's first full term in government, he and Abbott pushed for reform of the civil service, revisions of the criminal code and a reciprocity treaty with the U.S.  Later on his term, he actually pushed for a reduction of trade tariffs, and delt with questions over schooling in Manitoba and in the North West Territories, where disputes over the role of Catholics and Protestants in administering the school system existed.

The Liberals picked Wilfrid Laurier to lead them into the election, and he named Andrew Blair, the Governor of New Brunswick as his running mate in an attempt to win over Atlantic Canada.

When it came down to the election however, Atlantic Canada stuck with the tories (except for PEI), while Laurier proved to be popular in Quebec enough to give him the province, plus BC and the Northwest Territories. However, the party lost Ontario, losing them the election. Ontario was decided in a very close race, and having Bowell on the ticket helped the Tories.

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« Reply #28 on: September 27, 2008, 01:52:28 AM »

Tories have a major built-in advantage here. That mirrors RL, of course.

I look forward to seeing Laurier again. Smiley
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« Reply #29 on: September 27, 2008, 06:01:33 AM »

I look forward to when it gets real interesting. 1911, 1921, 1930, 1935 etc.
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« Reply #30 on: September 27, 2008, 05:18:05 PM »

I look forward to when it gets real interesting. 1911, 1921, 1930, 1935 etc.

Unfortunately, there are no elections in 1921 or 1930.
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« Reply #31 on: September 27, 2008, 05:53:35 PM »

1899

After two terms in power, De Boucherville decides not to run for re-election. The Conservatives decide to nominate Vice President Mackenzie Bowell as their candidate for the presidency. He chooses Governor Charles Tupper to be his running mate.

Laurier's immense popularity in Quebec led the Liberals to try and draft him once again to be their candidate for President. Once again Governor Blair is his running mate.

The major issue that De Boucherville faced during his second term in office was the issue over the Manitoba schools question. The Manitoba legislature had banned funding for Catholic schooling in that province, which DeBoucherville opposed. He led a fight to have congress overide the bill, ensuring the rights of Catholics to have their own school system in that province. This turned out to be quite an unpopular move.

In the end, only Ontario sticks with the Conservatives. 

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« Reply #32 on: September 27, 2008, 09:32:25 PM »

So, the Tories are pro-Catholic and the Grits anti-Catholic?
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« Reply #33 on: September 27, 2008, 09:34:54 PM »

So, the Tories are pro-Catholic and the Grits anti-Catholic?

No, the Liberals are pro- provincial rights.
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« Reply #34 on: September 27, 2008, 09:49:00 PM »

So, the Tories are pro-Catholic and the Grits anti-Catholic?

No, the Liberals are pro- provincial rights.

Which the Québécois would percieve as anti-Catholic, correct? IIRC, that's what killed the Tories in Quebec for decades.
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« Reply #35 on: September 27, 2008, 11:20:45 PM »

So, the Tories are pro-Catholic and the Grits anti-Catholic?

No, the Liberals are pro- provincial rights.

Which the Québécois would percieve as anti-Catholic, correct? IIRC, that's what killed the Tories in Quebec for decades.

Laurier was a Catholic, so there wasn't anything anti-Catholic about it. He was still fairly popular in Quebec, and if any party was anti-Catholic it would've been the tories. Although in this TL they are not very strong, since they had a Catholic president.
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« Reply #36 on: September 27, 2008, 11:49:09 PM »

So Quebec won't be solid red?
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« Reply #37 on: September 27, 2008, 11:56:13 PM »


Wait and see. I can assure you Laurier's popularity is the same in Quebec.
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« Reply #38 on: September 27, 2008, 11:59:08 PM »


Wait and see. I can assure you Laurier's popularity is the same in Quebec.

Good. Smiley
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« Reply #39 on: September 28, 2008, 12:47:53 AM »

Immediately after taking office, Laurier was faced with the issue of the British involvement in the Boer War. Laurier was caught between demands for support for military action from English Canada, and a strong opposition from French Canada, which saw the Boer War as an "English" war.  Laurier eventually decided to send a volunteer force, rather than the militia expected by Britain.

Laurier continued to be a popular leader, and was easily re-elected. He defeated an all Nova Scotian ticket of Charles Tupper and Robert Borden which was unable to win their own province! However, neighbouring PEI would fall into the Conservative column.

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« Reply #40 on: September 28, 2008, 12:50:31 AM »

January 25, 1907: Just months before the election, Vice President Blair dies from a heart attack. He is replaced by William Stevens Fielding.
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« Reply #41 on: September 28, 2008, 12:53:36 AM »


List of Presidents:
1867-1871: John Alexander Macdonald, C
1871-1879: Dominick Edward Blake, L
1879-1891: John Alexander Macdonald, C
1891-1899: Charles-Eugène-Napoléon Boucher de Boucherville, C
1899-: Wilfrid Laurier, L
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« Reply #42 on: September 28, 2008, 01:03:30 AM »

Laurier! Smiley

I look toward WWI.
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« Reply #43 on: September 28, 2008, 06:25:55 AM »
« Edited: September 28, 2008, 06:44:06 AM by Kentoc'h mervel eget saotr »

So, the Tories are pro-Catholic and the Grits anti-Catholic?

No, the Liberals are pro- provincial rights.

Which the Québécois would percieve as anti-Catholic, correct? IIRC, that's what killed the Tories in Quebec for decades.

That and conscription.

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« Reply #44 on: October 14, 2008, 03:23:29 PM »

List of Ontario Governors:

John Sandfield Macdonald, C (1867-1871)
Archibald McKellar, L (1871-1875)
Oliver Mowat, L (1875-1899)
George William Ross, L (1899-)

List of Quebec Governors:
Pierre-Joseph-Olivier-Chauveau, C (1867-1875)
Charles-Eugene Boucher de Boucherville, C (1875-1879)
Joseph-Adolphe Chapleau, C (1879-1887)
Honore Mercier, L (1887-1894)
Felix-Gabriel Marchand, L (1894-1895)
Edmund James Flynn, C (1895-1899)
Simon-Napoleon Parent, L (1899-)
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« Reply #45 on: December 19, 2008, 07:28:00 PM »

Update! Hooray!
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« Reply #46 on: December 19, 2008, 07:30:08 PM »

1907

Laurier is re-elected with his new Vice President, as he gets much support from the new prairie provinces created since the last election. It was Laurier's idea to open the west up to immigration, and the new immigrants helped re-elect him.

The Conservatives picked Robert Borden as their Presidential candidate. He picked Manitoba governor Rodmond Roblin as his VP candidate, trying to shore up western support.

In the end, the election was very close, with Laurier just edging Borden out. Borden wants revenge.

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« Reply #47 on: December 19, 2008, 07:30:56 PM »


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« Reply #48 on: December 19, 2008, 07:50:15 PM »

1911

The 1911 election was fought over free trade with the U.S. and the creation of a Canadian Navy. Laurier had created the Navy as a response to the naval arms race between the UK and Germany. This position was received with a mix message from the voters, in another close race which was a re-match between Laurier and Borden.

Quebecers became lukewarm towards Laurier, but in the end it was Quebec that won him the election by a razor thin margin. Borden won the popular vote, thanks to a strong showing in Ontario. Borden picked businessman and former Liberal, William Thomas White as his VP candidate.

Laurier's support for freetrade helped keep his numbers high in the west.



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« Reply #49 on: December 19, 2008, 08:02:49 PM »

Very good! I win!
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