Conservative Party (UK) leadership election, 2022, Take Two

[brucejoel99]

CCHQ: "Oh no. Anyway…"

https://twitter.com/thetimes/status/1583522846730780674

[rc18]

If Sunak becomes leader, anyone think there is a possibility party can recover enough to win next election or is party too badly damaged at this point?

No, Sunak doesn't appeal to a large section of the coalition that gave the Tories their majority in 2019. The Tories struggled to get a majority even with a relatively slick leader in David Cameron. Brexit and the acceleration of underlying demographic trends gave the Conservatives a new coalition, which Boris ably exploited. Even a much better politician than Sunak would struggle if they didn't appeal to all parts of their new electorate.

[TheTide]

Might be worth noting that Shapps is another long term ally of Johnson.

[brucejoel99]

Matt Hancock just put Rishi on 100, if going by Guido's count.

[brucejoel99]

Confirmation of Rishi on 100:

https://twitter.com/PippaCrerar/status/1583561207612481537

[You are responsible]

CCHQ: "Oh no. Anyway…"

https://twitter.com/thetimes/status/1583522846730780674

RIGGED election!

[Filuwaúrdjan]

I can't entirely work out if this is a consciously Machiavellian act or a complete fuck up or some combination of the two. At least with dear old THIGMOO one knows at once that anything like that happening is quite intentional...

[Can't Back Down When Punched!]

I can't entirely work out if this is a consciously Machiavellian act or a complete fuck up or some combination of the two. At least with dear old THIGMOO one knows at once that anything like that happening is quite intentional...

When it's either cunning Machiavellian trickery or pure incompetence, I think it's usually better to assume the latter when it comes to internal party politics. Especially because this is all happening under short notice

[Pericles]

Matt Hancock just put Rishi on 100, if going by Guido's count.

He really wants to be back in Cabinet. Keeping him out would be an important signal that Rishi is appointing based on merit and not creating another dim-witted cabinet of loyalists.

[🥥🌴]

[Vosem]

https://twitter.com/maiamindel/status/1583438476275744769

[User2663]

My grandmother is supporting Boris (and then Sunak over Mordaunt). Last time she was considering Truss early on but ultimately ended up voting for Sunak.

If Sunak becomes leader, anyone think there is a possibility party can recover enough to win next election or is party too badly damaged at this point?

No, Sunak doesn't appeal to a large section of the coalition that gave the Tories their majority in 2019. The Tories struggled to get a majority even with a relatively slick leader in David Cameron. Brexit and the acceleration of underlying demographic trends gave the Conservatives a new coalition, which Boris ably exploited. Even a much better politician than Sunak would struggle if they didn't appeal to all parts of their new electorate.

Neither does Boris anymore, it would seem. If Sunak can’t win the next election (and right now it seems nobody can), he can’t either.

[Conservatopia]

I'd be interested to hear what Cassius has to say on this but I think I've reached the point where I don't care who wins the leadership of my party.

I won't support Boris, who I backed in the 2019 race, because he caused this mess in the first place and won't be able to staff a government.

I don't like Rishi, he's a posh boy and he won't appeal to the 2019 coalition at all.

I won't support Mordaunt because whilst she might be the best choice electorally, she's too far to my left.

I'd rather just headbang on my own in my little niche of the hard right thanks very much.

Also, I'm actually kind of getting tempted by the Reform Party emails inviting candidates to stand. It would be a waste of time though, they're going nowhere.

[Boobs]

Also, I'm actually kind of getting tempted by the Reform Party emails inviting candidates to stand. It would be a waste of time though, they're going nowhere.

Time to join Labour as a Gloucestchurian candidate.

[Estrella]

https://twitter.com/maiamindel/status/1583438476275744769

GANÓ MIRTHA

[Trump v. Wong Kim Ark]

Also, I'm actually kind of getting tempted by the Reform Party emails inviting candidates to stand. It would be a waste of time though, they're going nowhere.

If they pay the deposit, why not have a bit of fun? You’ll get to stand with actual politicians. And maybe someone dressed up like a garbage can with a blue ribbon.

[TheTide]

Chris Heaton-Harris (Northern Ireland Secretary) for Johnson.

[brucejoel99]

https://twitter.com/HarryTaylr/status/1583585551675928577

[Anti-Penguin Tariff Voter]

In retrospect Johnson hiding out in the carribbean might have been an advantage. If he was in the House of Commons during the fracking debacle he might’ve punched somebody

[Torrain]

Interesting to see the Times and Telegraph basically beg the party not to pick Johnson, given his tenure (and close relations) with both publications (the Telegraph in particular). Never thought I’d see the day that a Telegraph front page told us “now is not the time for Boris”.

https://www.tomorrowspapers.co.uk/

[Joe Kakistocracy]

In retrospect Johnson hiding out in the carribbean might have been an advantage. If he was in the House of Commons during the fracking debacle he might’ve punched somebody

More likely is that somebody would have punched him.

[Hnv1]

Interesting to see the Times and Telegraph basically beg the party not to pick Johnson, given his tenure (and close relations) with both publications (the Telegraph in particular). Never thought I’d see the day that a Telegraph front page told us “now is not the time for Boris”.

https://www.tomorrowspapers.co.uk/

Would the times endorse Labour? They did so in 2001 iirc

[Torrain]

Interesting to see the Times and Telegraph basically beg the party not to pick Johnson, given his tenure (and close relations) with both publications (the Telegraph in particular). Never thought I’d see the day that a Telegraph front page told us “now is not the time for Boris”.

https://www.tomorrowspapers.co.uk/

Would the times endorse Labour? They did so in 2001 iirc

They’re calling for an immediate general election, which is a defacto Labour endorsement. Whether that’ll still be the case when Parliament eventually dissolved is unclear…

[インターネット掲示板ユーザー Punxsutawney Phil]

Interesting to see the Times and Telegraph basically beg the party not to pick Johnson, given his tenure (and close relations) with both publications (the Telegraph in particular). Never thought I’d see the day that a Telegraph front page told us “now is not the time for Boris”.

https://www.tomorrowspapers.co.uk/

Would the times endorse Labour? They did so in 2001 iirc

They’re calling for an immediate general election, which is a defacto Labour endorsement. Whether that’ll still be the case when Parliament eventually dissolved is unclear…

It seems that kind of stance basically is "Either someone besides Boris or there is a general election". If I'm reading that right...

[MABA 2020]

Can't get over this, picking Boris now would be a comically bad decision, I can't believe it's something the Tories might actually do. I don't even think I want that to happen in reality, there's only so much chaos the country can take and I think I'd prefer Sunak calm things down a bit before Labour take over.

The guy also clearly hasn't changed, he's been sunning himself in the Caribbean when he should have been at work.