Las Vegas Strip

[Arizona Iced Tea]

Was looking at the NYT detailed results, and Trump did surprisingly well on the Las Vegas Strip. He won the northern section (including Trump hotel) all the way down to Caesar's Palace. He only lost the "main" section from the Bellagio/Bally's down to NYNY and Exaclibur by 5 pts. Luxor and down to the airport he lost by 18 which matched his performance in surrounding parts of Vegas.

What exactly is the reason behind this?

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

These precincts are significantly more white than surrounding ones.

[Independents against George Santos]

People live on the strip?

[jamestroll]

Hospitality owners and management?

My experience is this:

Hospitality workers= Democrat

Management and owners= More Republican but not exclusively.

[Del Tachi]

I don't find it very surprising that the people who live full-time at the Luxor or Treasure Island may be Republicans. 

[Interlocutor is just not there yet]

I'm more surprised that there's at least 418 people who live on the Strip

[The Arizonan]

The most interesting fact is that the Las Vegas Strip is not actually in Las Vegas, but in an unincorporated place called Paradise. You’re not in Las Vegas until you drive north of Sahara Boulevard.

The Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department has jurisdiction over the city of Las Vegas, as well as some unincorporated areas of the Las Vegas Valley.

[Joe Republic]

There is a handful of low-rent, somewhat run-down apartment complexes around the outskirts of that precinct, just off-Strip.  And then yes, there are a couple of high-rent, high-rise condo towers as well.  So combine the first group of low-income, low-education working class with the second group of high-income tacky rich people, and there's your answer.

I don't find it very surprising that the people who live full-time at the Luxor or Treasure Island may be Republicans. 

Nobody actually lives in the casino hotels, and that's usually the top answer among locals of "stupid things tourists apparently believe".  And not that you care, but the Luxor isn't even in that highlighted precinct.

[Del Tachi]

I don't find it very surprising that the people who live full-time at the Luxor or Treasure Island may be Republicans. 

Nobody actually lives in the casino hotels, and that's usually the top answer among locals of "stupid things tourists apparently believe".  And not that you care, but the Luxor isn't even in that highlighted precinct.

No one cares about your fake, refugee camp city, Joe.

[Joe Republic]

Ah, I see.  You're just being an ass.    Well, insulting the hometown of one of our mod admins is a bold strategy, Cotton, and let's see how it works out for ya.

[Del Tachi]

Ah, I see.  You're just being an ass.    Well, insulting the hometown of one of our mod admins is a bold strategy, Cotton, and let's see how it works out for ya.

You were also being an ass.  Bring it on. 

[Joe Republic]

You started out in this thread by claiming that people live full-time in Vegas casinos.  I've even met tourists who have asked me which hotel I live in.  Kinda like engaging with flat-earthers, it's hard to know if they actually earnestly mean it because they're quite stupid, or are just f—king with the person they're talking to in order to be an ass.  So, which are you?

[Fmr. Gov. NickG]

There are some luxury condos on the strip, some of which are part of the casinos like Aria (Vdara) and MGM Grand (Signature), and some free standing (Panorama Towers).  I know some pro pokers players living there, and I think a lot are rented as AirBNBs for tourists, but there’s also probably some wealthy retirees that live there.  Those are a bit south of the precinct the OP highighted, but I’d guess that is similar.  It’s definitely not culinary-union casino staff living there.

[Del Tachi]

You started out in this thread by claiming that people live full-time in Vegas casinos.  I've even met tourists who have asked me which hotel I live in.  Kinda like engaging with flat-earthers, it's hard to know if they actually earnestly mean it because they're quite stupid, or are just f—king with the person they're talking to in order to be an ass.  So, which are you?

Las Vegas is an easy city to poke fun at, so it's mostly the latter.  But as has already been pointed out, people do live in Las Vegas "condotels" (some of which are associated with a casino, like The Signature.)  I would imagine the folks interested in that kind of lifestyle do, in fact, skew toward supporting Donald Trump.  

You obviously cannot live at a hotel.  Tenancy comes with a host of rights and regulations that hotels do not want to deal with.  But there are plenty of developments in Vegas built for people wanting to approximate a full-time, resort lifestyle on the Strip.  Whether or not these are technical "hotels" is immaterial.  

[Joe Republic]

Yes I know, I said pretty much all of that in my first post here.

So we are on the same page after all, and your first post here was facetious.  Fine, I get it now.  But again, when LV locals have literally had out-of-towners assume that people actually live in the Luxor or Treasure Island full time, you can understand why I thought you were being serious too.

[TransfemmeGoreVidal]

Hospitality owners and management?

My experience is this:

Hospitality workers= Democrat

Management and owners= More Republican but not exclusively.

So management and owners are far more likely to be able to afford to live right on the strip is my guess.

[Joe Republic]

Hospitality owners and management?

My experience is this:

Hospitality workers= Democrat

Management and owners= More Republican but not exclusively.

So management and owners are far more likely to be able to afford to live right on the strip is my guess.

Again, the precinct shown in the OP also has very low-rent apartment complexes on its outskirts.  A quick Zillow search shows some 1-beds available for under $1k/mo.

[TransfemmeGoreVidal]

Hospitality owners and management?

My experience is this:

Hospitality workers= Democrat

Management and owners= More Republican but not exclusively.

So management and owners are far more likely to be able to afford to live right on the strip is my guess.

Again, the precinct shown in the OP also has very low-rent apartment complexes on its outskirts.  A quick Zillow search shows some 1-beds available for under $1k/mo.

I stand corrected. That’s pretty unusual for any metropolitan downtown to be that cheap in this day and age.

[The Arizonan]

Also, why doesn’t Las Vegas annex unincorporated areas in the Las Vegas area like Paradise and Winchester?

[YE]

Also, why doesn’t Las Vegas annex unincorporated areas in the Las Vegas area like Paradise and Winchester?

Not allowed under state law IIRC.

[jamestroll]

I find hospitality managers to be overly arrogant. While it is a good, largely white collar, professional job that typically pays well... I found most of them thought way to highly of themselves. The way some of them acted, you would think they are CEOs or doctors. lmao.

usually very upper management always had my back in situations, but a lot of monday morning quarter backing from people on my level and below.  Largely because people in upper management had my role in the past.

I almost always worked overnight in large properties.. and had no tolerance of drunks. I was very quick to kick people out.  I would get angry when some people were more concerned about the tips or the money being spent by an overly intoxicated person (which is illegal at that point) than the overall experience and safety of the property.

I do admit with black guests, I was a bit easier on them. I would be afraid that if they were arrested by police they would get a record and be treated harsher by police.. so I only kicked out a black person when it was 100% necessary. Did not want to ruin their lives over some one night BS.

But I will say virtually all the white managers were Republicans were I worked.. and this was in Nova...

I could not work in Las Vegas though ever. Almost everyone would have been kicked out every night, and my aggressive enforcement of people reporting their tips for tax and income backing purposes wouldn't be taken to kindly.

but  hospitality management.. i am done with it. its all BS.

[NorCalifornio]

Also, why doesn’t Las Vegas annex unincorporated areas in the Las Vegas area like Paradise and Winchester?

Not allowed under state law IIRC.

What isn't allowed under state law, specifically annexing Paradise? There certainly isn't some blanket ban on Vegas expanding its city limits or annexing unincorporated territory.

[cg41386]

Also, why doesn’t Las Vegas annex unincorporated areas in the Las Vegas area like Paradise and Winchester?

Not allowed under state law IIRC.

What isn't allowed under state law, specifically annexing Paradise? There certainly isn't some blanket ban on Vegas expanding its city limits or annexing unincorporated territory.

Paradise Township became the largest unincorporated town in the United States in 1950. The reason they made Paradise Township was because the mayor of Las Vegas was pressing for annexation of the Las Vegas Strip. This was not in the interests of the owners of the newly thriving businesses along the Las Vegas Strip, so those owners, some of whom were mob connected, managed to get a law passed in Nevada forbidding a city from annexing an unincorporated town. Then all they had to do was form a new township and Las Vegas could forget about annexing the Las Vegas Strip.

https://living-las-vegas.com/2010/02/where-is-paradise/

Paradise can only become part of LV if residents vote to do so.

[NorCalifornio]

Also, why doesn’t Las Vegas annex unincorporated areas in the Las Vegas area like Paradise and Winchester?

Not allowed under state law IIRC.

What isn't allowed under state law, specifically annexing Paradise? There certainly isn't some blanket ban on Vegas expanding its city limits or annexing unincorporated territory.

Paradise Township became the largest unincorporated town in the United States in 1950. The reason they made Paradise Township was because the mayor of Las Vegas was pressing for annexation of the Las Vegas Strip. This was not in the interests of the owners of the newly thriving businesses along the Las Vegas Strip, so those owners, some of whom were mob connected, managed to get a law passed in Nevada forbidding a city from annexing an unincorporated town. Then all they had to do was form a new township and Las Vegas could forget about annexing the Las Vegas Strip.

https://living-las-vegas.com/2010/02/where-is-paradise/

Paradise can only become part of LV if residents vote to do so.

Interesting, thanks. The bold part is funny, because I'm fairly certain that Nevada is the only state that has "unincorporated towns" as a type of local government.

[cg41386]

Also, why doesn’t Las Vegas annex unincorporated areas in the Las Vegas area like Paradise and Winchester?

Not allowed under state law IIRC.

What isn't allowed under state law, specifically annexing Paradise? There certainly isn't some blanket ban on Vegas expanding its city limits or annexing unincorporated territory.

Paradise Township became the largest unincorporated town in the United States in 1950. The reason they made Paradise Township was because the mayor of Las Vegas was pressing for annexation of the Las Vegas Strip. This was not in the interests of the owners of the newly thriving businesses along the Las Vegas Strip, so those owners, some of whom were mob connected, managed to get a law passed in Nevada forbidding a city from annexing an unincorporated town. Then all they had to do was form a new township and Las Vegas could forget about annexing the Las Vegas Strip.

https://living-las-vegas.com/2010/02/where-is-paradise/

Paradise can only become part of LV if residents vote to do so.

Interesting, thanks. The bold part is funny, because I'm fairly certain that Nevada is the only state that has "unincorporated towns" as a type of local government.

Here's another article that further explains it a bit.

https://www.neighborhoods.com/blog/what-is-the-difference-between-las-vegas-and-paradise-nevada

From Wikipedia: As an unincorporated town, it is governed by the Clark County Commission with input from the Paradise Town Advisory Board.