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« on: October 04, 2022, 10:01:09 AM »

How would 2012 and 2016 Presidential election look like with 2016 GOP ticket in 2012,but 2012 one in  2016. Did butterflies may cause Sanders nomination or better showing?
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« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2022, 04:11:03 PM »


President Barack Obama (D-IL) / Vice President Joe Biden (D-DE) ✓
Businessman Donald Trump (R-NY) / Congressman Mike Pence (R-IN)

Without 8 years of scant liberal achievements, sizable social media echo chambers, or the post-Gamergate rise of the alt-right to build his OTL movement off, Trump wins more or less as a creature of the Tea Party and predictably loses.


Fmr. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton (D-NY) / Senator Tim Kaine (D-VA) ✓
Fmr. Governor Mitt Romney (R-MA) / Congressman Paul Ryan (R-WI)

The Republicans are rudderless after Trump, and Romney wins the primary by picking up both anti-immigration Trump supporters and detractors of the Tea Party, represented by Ted Cruz. His campaign is as tone deaf as OTL, but Hillary doesn't exactly appeal to the populist wave either, so it's a wash.
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« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2022, 07:48:02 PM »

2012:



President Barack Obama / Vice President Joe Biden (Democratic)
Businessman Donald Trump / Congressman Mike Pence (Republican)

Trump does better in IA, OH, WI, PA, and MI than Romney but does worse than Romney in AZ, GA, NE 2nd, and NC, with Obama winning the later two. Trump likely does worse than Romney in CO too.

2016:



Romney narrowly wins after an 8 year itch. Clinton doesn't take the race for granted, but many of the "Obama-Trump" voters of this universe vote for Romney over Clinton and many traditionally Republican suburban voters that either stay home in 2012 or begrudgingly backed Obama over Trump also back Romney. WI, NH, and VA are decided by less than 1% and PA, FL, and NV are decided by less than 2%.
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« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2022, 08:25:37 PM »

Obama gains NC, GA, and AZ in 2012
Clinton loses NH, MN, NV, ME, CO, and VA in 2016
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