Why has Oklahoma been so red for so long?

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Asenath Waite:
Oklahoma is a weird state politically to me. In 1948 Truman won it handedly yet then it inexplicably swung hard to Eisenhower in 52 and other then LBJ the only Democrat thatís come within striking distance since was Carter.

Maybe in some ways it was similar to West Virginia in terms of being a southern border state with its own distinct political history and one that seemingly abruptly swung hard from being one of the most consistently reliable Democratic states to one of the most Republican.

TML:
This state was successfully captured by Republicans with their ďSouthern strategyĒ - and its cultural conservatism means that it has many voters who are registered as Democrats (probably due to tradition) but who havenít voted for a Democrat for president in decades.

Zebulan9003:
Quote from: Asenath Waite on September 27, 2022, 10:55:02 AM

Oklahoma is a weird state politically to me. In 1948 Truman won it handedly yet then it inexplicably swung hard to Eisenhower in 52 and other then LBJ the only Democrat thatís come within striking distance since was Carter.

Maybe in some ways it was similar to West Virginia in terms of being a southern border state with its own distinct political history and one that seemingly abruptly swung hard from being one of the most consistently reliable Democratic states to one of the most Republican.


It started out with Tulsa county which provided a huge Republican margin along with OKC. In fact, Ford barely won OK because of them. However, as Dems have gained ground there, they absolutely got obliterated in the rurals after Bill Clinton and Al Gore (the last Dem to win any counties). And they just got more Republican after that.

Before 2000, there was also a clear North-Republican South-Democratic divide.

If my soul was made of stone:
Quote from: Zebulan9003 on October 08, 2022, 08:56:47 AM

Quote from: Asenath Waite on September 27, 2022, 10:55:02 AM

Oklahoma is a weird state politically to me. In 1948 Truman won it handedly yet then it inexplicably swung hard to Eisenhower in 52 and other then LBJ the only Democrat thatís come within striking distance since was Carter.

Maybe in some ways it was similar to West Virginia in terms of being a southern border state with its own distinct political history and one that seemingly abruptly swung hard from being one of the most consistently reliable Democratic states to one of the most Republican.


It started out with Tulsa county which provided a huge Republican margin along with OKC. In fact, Ford barely won OK because of them. However, as Dems have gained ground there, they absolutely got obliterated in the rurals after Bill Clinton and Al Gore (the last Dem to win any counties). And they just got more Republican after that.

Before 2000, there was also a clear North-Republican South-Democratic divide.



Goldwater won Tulsa County by double digits! It's voted for every GOP nominee since Willkie!

With the violent end of its "Black Wall Street" era, it quickly became the regional center for oil+gas and Evangelicalism that it more or less still is, with racial tensions of course still highly magnified.

The state as a whole's anomalously averse reaction to JFK points towards both classical Papist-bashing and a distaste for the increasingly urban and Northern party base and machinery, as continued via Wallace eating heavily into the state's Democratic constituencies and Jimmy Peanuts and Bubba being the only Democrats since to perform respectably. The last Democrat to win any counties here was of course Gore, an upland Southerner with some remaining goodwill from the Clinton administration.

Asenath Waite:
Quote from: Many, Many Nested Layers of Hauntology on October 08, 2022, 10:28:35 AM

Quote from: Zebulan9003 on October 08, 2022, 08:56:47 AM

Quote from: Asenath Waite on September 27, 2022, 10:55:02 AM

Oklahoma is a weird state politically to me. In 1948 Truman won it handedly yet then it inexplicably swung hard to Eisenhower in 52 and other then LBJ the only Democrat thatís come within striking distance since was Carter.

Maybe in some ways it was similar to West Virginia in terms of being a southern border state with its own distinct political history and one that seemingly abruptly swung hard from being one of the most consistently reliable Democratic states to one of the most Republican.


It started out with Tulsa county which provided a huge Republican margin along with OKC. In fact, Ford barely won OK because of them. However, as Dems have gained ground there, they absolutely got obliterated in the rurals after Bill Clinton and Al Gore (the last Dem to win any counties). And they just got more Republican after that.

Before 2000, there was also a clear North-Republican South-Democratic divide.



Goldwater won Tulsa County by double digits! It's voted for every GOP nominee since Willkie!

With the violent end of its "Black Wall Street" era, it quickly became the regional center for oil+gas and Evangelicalism that it more or less still is, with racial tensions of course still highly magnified.

The state as a whole's anomalously averse reaction to JFK points towards both classical Papist-bashing and a distaste for the increasingly urban and Northern party base and machinery, as continued via Wallace eating heavily into the state's Democratic constituencies and Jimmy Peanuts and Bubba being the only Democrats since to perform respectably. The last Democrat to win any counties here was of course Gore, an upland Southerner with some remaining goodwill from the Clinton administration.



The states results in 1928 which seem unfathomable for a southern border state in that era suggest that the anti-Catholicism runs pretty deep.

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