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« on: September 22, 2022, 09:03:24 AM »

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/3654245-dems-reach-deal-on-policing-bills-vote-planned-for-thursday/

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House Democrats have reached a long-elusive agreement on a package of police and community safety bills, according to several of the top stakeholders, with plans for the lower chamber to vote Thursday to send the legislation to the Senate.

The deal arrives after months of tense talks between moderate Democrats, who have been pushing for a vote on the pro-police package ahead of the midterm elections, and liberals leery of showering new funds on law enforcers without new safeguards for curbing police abuse.

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One, sponsored by Gottheimer, would provide federal grants to small local law enforcement agencies with fewer than 125 officers.


Another proposal, sponsored by Rep. Steven Horsford (D-Nev.), provides grants aimed at reining in community violence.

A third bill, sponsored by Rep. Katie Porter (D-Calif.), promotes the use of mental health workers, in lieu of law enforcement officers, in responding to incidents involving people with special behavioral needs. 

The fourth, sponsored by Rep. Val Demings (D-Fla.), provides funding to promote technology in helping local investigators crack unsolved cases, particularly those involving gun violence.

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« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2022, 09:06:01 AM »

THey're not going to combine everything into one super bill ?
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« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2022, 12:44:24 PM »

Wake me up when this reaches Biden’s desk.
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« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2022, 02:01:30 PM »

They need to get Demings a huge accomplishment in October if they can. Let her have the credit for anything popular that passes.
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« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2022, 03:05:12 PM »

They need to get Demings a huge accomplishment in October if they can. Let her have the credit for anything popular that passes.

Yeah, though I don't think she'd win the senate race. Instead, I wish Biden picked her as running mate instead of Harris.
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« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2022, 06:43:41 PM »

They need to get Demings a huge accomplishment in October if they can. Let her have the credit for anything popular that passes.

Yeah, though I don't think she'd win the senate race. Instead, I wish Biden picked her as running mate instead of Harris.

In hindsight I agree. Demings' experience as an ex-police officer actually probably would have been a bigger benefit than detriment considering the environment of 2020. I don't know how much of a difference she actually would have made but she would probably be perceived more positively than Harris always seems to be.
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« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2022, 07:34:35 PM »

They need to get Demings a huge accomplishment in October if they can. Let her have the credit for anything popular that passes.

Yeah, though I don't think she'd win the senate race. Instead, I wish Biden picked her as running mate instead of Harris.

In hindsight I agree. Demings' experience as an ex-police officer actually probably would have been a bigger benefit than detriment considering the environment of 2020. I don't know how much of a difference she actually would have made but she would probably be perceived more positively than Harris always seems to be.
Would it have made a difference? Harris was called a "cop" lol.
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« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2022, 07:45:26 PM »

They need to get Demings a huge accomplishment in October if they can. Let her have the credit for anything popular that passes.

Yeah, though I don't think she'd win the senate race. Instead, I wish Biden picked her as running mate instead of Harris.

I agree she'll probably lose, but we should fight as hard as we can for it.
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« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2022, 07:59:47 PM »

Hard to imagine this deal being a good one.
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« Reply #9 on: September 22, 2022, 08:06:23 PM »

Good to hear.
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« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2022, 10:01:13 AM »

They need to get Demings a huge accomplishment in October if they can. Let her have the credit for anything popular that passes.

Yeah, though I don't think she'd win the senate race. Instead, I wish Biden picked her as running mate instead of Harris.

In hindsight I agree. Demings' experience as an ex-police officer actually probably would have been a bigger benefit than detriment considering the environment of 2020. I don't know how much of a difference she actually would have made but she would probably be perceived more positively than Harris always seems to be.
Would it have made a difference? Harris was called a "cop" lol.

Yeah, Demings would've gotten 10x even worse lashings from progressives for being a literal cop. Harris was the better choice.
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« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2022, 04:53:45 PM »

They need to get Demings a huge accomplishment in October if they can. Let her have the credit for anything popular that passes.

Yeah, though I don't think she'd win the senate race. Instead, I wish Biden picked her as running mate instead of Harris.

In hindsight I agree. Demings' experience as an ex-police officer actually probably would have been a bigger benefit than detriment considering the environment of 2020. I don't know how much of a difference she actually would have made but she would probably be perceived more positively than Harris always seems to be.
Would it have made a difference? Harris was called a "cop" lol.

I guess it depends whether Harris' prosecutor record was a bigger downside than the association with "defund the police." There is probably an argument to be made for either.
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« Reply #12 on: September 23, 2022, 08:50:11 PM »

why did so many republicans vote against funding the police?
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« Reply #13 on: September 23, 2022, 09:40:40 PM »

They need to get Demings a huge accomplishment in October if they can. Let her have the credit for anything popular that passes.

Yeah, though I don't think she'd win the senate race. Instead, I wish Biden picked her as running mate instead of Harris.

In hindsight I agree. Demings' experience as an ex-police officer actually probably would have been a bigger benefit than detriment considering the environment of 2020. I don't know how much of a difference she actually would have made but she would probably be perceived more positively than Harris always seems to be.
Would it have made a difference? Harris was called a "cop" lol.

I don’t think that many people took that seriously. And those that did probably weren’t going to vote Biden in the first place.

The optics of picking Demings would’ve been awful though.
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« Reply #14 on: September 24, 2022, 03:07:00 AM »

The optics of picking Demings would’ve been awful though.

Yeah somehow this forum seems to have forgotten that the mass protests against police violence had widespread support in 2020 and were likely a net benefit to Biden campaign, at least outside of SE Wisconsin. People had large BLM rallies in rural Appalachia!
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« Reply #15 on: September 24, 2022, 03:25:19 AM »

The optics of picking Demings would’ve been awful though.

Yeah somehow this forum seems to have forgotten that the mass protests against police violence had widespread support in 2020 and were likely a net benefit to Biden campaign, at least outside of SE Wisconsin. People had large BLM rallies in rural Appalachia!

In that case it was exceptionally clear who was Derek Chauvin was in the wrong.. very different from Michael Brown in Ferguson.

Southeast Wisconsin you can clearly see between 2018 and 2020 that the riots did help Trump in that area.
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« Reply #16 on: September 24, 2022, 03:26:28 AM »

The optics of picking Demings would’ve been awful though.

Yeah somehow this forum seems to have forgotten that the mass protests against police violence had widespread support in 2020 and were likely a net benefit to Biden campaign, at least outside of SE Wisconsin. People had large BLM rallies in rural Appalachia!

In that case it was exceptionally clear who was Derek Chauvin was in the wrong.. very different from Michael Brown in Ferguson.

Southeast Wisconsin you can clearly see between 2018 and 2020 that the riots did help Trump in that area.

Yeah that's why I singled it out as an exception.
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« Reply #17 on: September 24, 2022, 03:32:06 AM »

The optics of picking Demings would’ve been awful though.

Yeah somehow this forum seems to have forgotten that the mass protests against police violence had widespread support in 2020 and were likely a net benefit to Biden campaign, at least outside of SE Wisconsin. People had large BLM rallies in rural Appalachia!

In that case it was exceptionally clear who was Derek Chauvin was in the wrong.. very different from Michael Brown in Ferguson.

Southeast Wisconsin you can clearly see between 2018 and 2020 that the riots did help Trump in that area.

Yeah that's why I singled it out as an exception.

Now of course, "defund the police" certainly hurt Democrats at the margins in 2020.

Of course much of the online left believed that “Defund the police”, "Latinx", "Virtual learning", "shutting down businesses" were brilliant and popular political strategies that should  have been  party planks.

Fortunately that era is over.
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« Reply #18 on: September 24, 2022, 03:48:29 AM »

The Progressives are opposing the WVA pipeline deal if the Govt shuts down and we get a Speaker McCarthy even with a D Senate they are gonna get the same WVA pipeline problem because there is a Debt Ceiling fight in 3/2023 and they can't let the Credit rating collapse in the Spring so I don't like it either but they need to pass something so they don't look bad right before EDay, look what happened last yr the Debt Ceiling went far too long and we lost VA Governor race
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« Reply #19 on: September 24, 2022, 11:40:01 AM »

Terrible news, hopefully McConnell accidentally does a good thing and stonewalls this
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