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ProudModerate2
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« on: September 23, 2022, 02:34:02 PM »

I think much of this has less to do with the culture of Atlas and more to do with the nature of conservatism itself. At best, conservatism seeks to preserve the status quo, so they haven't really though about how they might defend their beliefs. They've never had to. They're not advocating for any kind of change, so they don't have any institutions or leaders to challenge. Conservatives generally hail from echo chambers and have rarely, if ever, had their belief system challenged. They haven't been exposed to liberal/progressive line of thought. If they have, it's been a strawman or extremist outlier manufactured by Fox News or some other conservative outlet. So when they finally do encounter a left-leaning person who competently defends their beliefs, it feels like a personal attack. It's the same reason why many conservatives feel that their opinions are not welcome in a university setting. It's the first time where someone has actually made them defend why they believe what they believe.

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lol do you deny that conservatives are generally in echo chambers?

Liberals/progressives dominate mass media/pop culture/advertising, education, HR departments, and a whole lot of other fields where conservatives cannot easily avoid being directly exposed to their beliefs even if they don't seek it out or have more liberal friends and family.

What is this sudden hard-on for "HR departments" in Atlas?
Who on Earth, thinks about how "liberal/progressive" their HR dept is, and how it massively affects their way of living?
Just bizarre. I mean, if this is some kind of major issue in your life, it's YOU that has (mental) issues.
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ProudModerate2
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« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2022, 10:41:18 PM »

... Second, your "Big Lie" line is tiresome.  Millions of Americans that are educated, work and pay taxes (you're in the process of one and not there for there yet for the other two) don't believe that the 2020 election was fairly administered, and they don't believe that irregularities and unconstitutional changes to voting procedures were given fair hearings in Court. 

LMAO.
Oh my. Where to start.
If people "are tiresome," they are tired of hearing garbage by those who try to defend trump's "stolen election" gibberish, such as the stuff you are posting here.
Millions of American Idiots are the only ones believing in this "the election was not fairly administered" horse-manure.
I mean honestly ... you were even pushing that "our election did not adhere to international election standards" hogwash, just 6 months ago or so.
Are you not embarrassed by all this?
You have really gone down-hill since the 2015 trump years. Good God.
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ProudModerate2
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« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2022, 12:51:18 PM »

No one wants to be persuaded that their most recent election was unfairly administered, because it is a disempowering thought.

"No one is persuaded" (except for bird-brain trump cultists) because it's utter bull-s**t.
Who are you kidding?
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ProudModerate2
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« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2022, 01:02:57 PM »

And, just to make clear for the umpteenth time:  I do not condone the illegal activities of January 6th, but to style this as an "insurrection" is utter nonsense.  A "riot"?  Arguably, yes, and rioters should be punished.  But criminal charges should be investigated under the limits set by the Constitution, and they should have the right to unbiased Judges and an unbiased Jury Pool, which is not happening.  They should also not be in pretrial confinement under the conditions they are being held under (even for misdemeanors).  You're a lawyer and a man of integrity, Torie.  I am hoping that you can be a voice to defend the Civil Rights of the J6 defendants whose Constitutional Rights under the 4th and 8th Amendments have been run roughshod over.

"Unbiased judges"? What does that even mean. They are assigned accordingly, and some of the judges are conservative in nature (assigned/nominated by Republican leaders).

And this "unbiased jury pool" is complete nonsense. The jury pool, is the jury pool. People throughout the area are asked to report to court on a random day and time, and assigned to smaller groups on a random basis. Then attorneys on both sides have the right to reject prospective jurors, as the jury is slowly populated to full. This is how the court system usually works.
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