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« on: September 17, 2022, 06:50:19 AM »

The Vaush of Karl Marx' day was Schopenhauer.
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« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2022, 09:30:47 AM »

FF but along with Bryan Jennings and Woodrow Wilson they werebt Secular they had Secular views but Jennings and Wilson we're DIXIECRATS they were racist back then, but there liberal way of thinking of raising taxes on the rich and give to poor and Federal Rights over states rights we take from that
Well, Marx did apparently consider moving to Texas at one point...

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« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2022, 09:45:12 AM »

FF but along with Bryan Jennings and Woodrow Wilson they werebt Secular they had Secular views but Jennings and Wilson we're DIXIECRATS they were racist back then, but there liberal way of thinking of raising taxes on the rich and give to poor and Federal Rights over states rights we take from that
Well, Marx did apparently consider moving to Texas at one point...


average twitter 'post-left' guy tbh

I mean Oakvale is arguably a post-leftist by virtue of having looped back around to supporting Irish Labour, so checks out
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« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2022, 10:49:08 AM »

This forum has been taken over by Communists.
It's a shame that none of your posts are as funny as your sig.

I'm glad you like my sig, out of all of them, who is most inspiring to you?  For me it's Murasaki Shikibu (under Boudicca and above Pope Joan), Sarah Palin, Naoko Takeuchi (between Margaret Thatcher and Ann Coulter), and Lisa from BLACKPINK (under Shania Twain and to the right of Harriet Tubman, she's the third from the left).  It's too hard to choose just one.

I'm feeling a strong Boudica to a light Candace Owens on this one.
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« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2022, 11:32:02 AM »

This forum has been taken over by Communists.
It's a shame that none of your posts are as funny as your sig.

I'm glad you like my sig, out of all of them, who is most inspiring to you?  For me it's Murasaki Shikibu (under Boudicca and above Pope Joan), Sarah Palin, Naoko Takeuchi (between Margaret Thatcher and Ann Coulter), and Lisa from BLACKPINK (under Shania Twain and to the right of Harriet Tubman, she's the third from the left).  It's too hard to choose just one.
I'm more of a Jennie girl myself, have you heard her Solo?

Yes, excellent singer, truly a national treasure of the Republic of Korea (only legitimate government of Korea, have you ever seen North Korea, I have, it's depressing).

As a US Naval officer of some repute once said, "We paean the DPRK. We paean their great leader Kim Il-Sung."
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« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2022, 05:04:48 AM »

What was Abraham Lincoln's view on gay marriage, I wonder?

The last six Army of Northern Virginia generals were fags.
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« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2022, 01:29:28 PM »

Overall HP.

I don't think he was generally evil or so, indeed identified problems with excessive capitalism, but his proposed "cures" were questionable all too often.

The big flaw with Marx was that he was good at identifying problems and extremely short on developing detailed 'cures' to those problems. His later acolytes stepped into the breach with... um... mixed results, but those by and large can't be laid at the feet of Marx the man.

He identified a good system (capitalism) and decided that it was a problem.

It’s worth bearing in mind that Marx didn’t consider capitalism to be a problem in and of itself. He was actually surprisingly complementary of it in certain writings - he considered it a necessary stage in the upward progress of humanity that would soon be replaced by socialism (a further advance), a stance that marks him out from some other socialist thinkers of the time (Fourier) who regarded capitalism and its accoutrements (trade, investment) as bad in and of themselves.

You're right.  That's why he supported Abraham Lincoln's war of aggression against the South.

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« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2022, 02:42:22 PM »

Overall HP.

I don't think he was generally evil or so, indeed identified problems with excessive capitalism, but his proposed "cures" were questionable all too often.

Your favorite party in Germany was heavily influenced by Marx in the early 20th century.
I consider Hilferding one of the most important economists in the world in the first half of the 20th century.

This is a guy who thinks Schröder was a good Chancellor, so I doubt this'll mean anything for him.
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« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2022, 06:40:03 AM »

No slave society can exist without the support and intervention of the government

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_trafficking
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« Reply #9 on: September 22, 2022, 10:35:30 AM »

That also said, you are not the first person to suggest something like "the Revolution has already happened". Industrial workers uniting in anti-government unions and overthrowing hostile authoritarian governments simultaneously around the world has in fact already happened, in 1989-1992; what Marx got wrong was that they ended up demanding liberal capitalism and an end to communism forever.

Believe it or not, there was a brief shining moment when Solidarity hadn't yet started opportunistically courting Reagan and Thatcher to have The Pressure Of The West on their side, and even then plenty of them weren't too chuffed about it. Not to mention that not every Eastern Bloc regime fell like that, of course!
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