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« on: September 17, 2022, 04:34:37 PM »

^ All I can say is that this is ridiculous, and I encourage you to learn more about the trials.  Being casually antisemitic is not the same thing as Nazi ideology.  This is the kind of revisionist thinking that had some posters on this bored claiming that the segregationist South was sympathetic to Nazi ideology even though it was the most anti-Nazi/pro-Anglo area of the country since the outbreak of war and most pro-Nazi sentiment came from isolationists in the Midwest.  If you look at the evidence used to convict the defendants, there is absolutely zero chance Hitler is acquitted.  Zero.

The Southern elite is very English and lacked an industrial and middle class base as such at the time.

The Midwest was much more German and was simultaneously both more proletarian and much more middle class than the South.

If you consider the origins of the Nazis' as both siphoning off working class support as well as absorbing middle class types scared by the reds, it makes sense that there would be little support for Germany in the South and to the extent their was such sympathy it would be in the Midwest and Germans enclaves in places like Queens. Still, the vast majority of German-Americans were indeed loyal to the United States.

I think this is a byproduct of labeling every right wing government fascist without understanding the basis and support for various right wing regimes and just assuming that all of them would see each other as kindred spirits because of their mutual racism. The world as ever, is more complex than the one dimensional analysis employed by modern revisionists seeking to redefine all of history as racists versus their opponents.

White controlled South Africa as part of the British Commonwealth, fought with the Allies for example.
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« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2022, 10:52:05 PM »

I'm surprised no one here has mentioned a Jack Ruby scenario had Hitler somehow been captured alive.

More of a Gaddafi scenario, but certainly.

It might have actually happened to Himmler, the details of that situation are rather sketchy.
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« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2022, 11:11:17 PM »

I'm surprised no one here has mentioned a Jack Ruby scenario had Hitler somehow been captured alive.

More of a Gaddafi scenario, but certainly.

It might have actually happened to Himmler, the details of that situation are rather sketchy.
What makes Himmler's death sketchy? All I know is that he was in Allied custody and popped cyanide. Is there more to it?

Mark Felton has a video on it as part of a series on Himmler at the end of the war. Basically the questionable aspect is the fact that he waited so long to pop the cyanide, had been searched previous and had for the most part been treated well. Felton dismisses the theory that he was beaten to death by his captors, but it was one that was circulating around for a while since not enough injuries were reported to his face to back that up.

The conspiracy types argue that the cyanide was forced into his mouth to silence any harmful information he might have about Churchill or the Royal family.
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