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« on: September 16, 2022, 03:00:52 AM »

My gut instinct is that had Hitler been tried at Nuremberg, he would have been the only defendant acquitted.

He had a way with words,and twisting them to his own ends, and it's not like ideas, especially about racial purity and antisemitism were unpopular among the Allies-indeed, I'd say a clear majority,if not more than that supported some element of the Nazi ideology in all of the allied nations (even the Soviet Union, antisemitism was very popular there). It was Hitler's actions that were repulsive, and with Hitler actually in court to defend them, I'd foresee an acquittal on all charges (or at least any that would get sent to prison for more than a few years, let alone executed).
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« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2022, 12:14:44 AM »

^ All I can say is that this is ridiculous, and I encourage you to learn more about the trials.  Being casually antisemitic is not the same thing as Nazi ideology.  This is the kind of revisionist thinking that had some posters on this bored claiming that the segregationist South was sympathetic to Nazi ideology even though it was the most anti-Nazi/pro-Anglo area of the country since the outbreak of war and most pro-Nazi sentiment came from isolationists in the Midwest.  If you look at the evidence used to convict the defendants, there is absolutely zero chance Hitler is acquitted.  Zero.

I'm not saying all of the defendants would be acquitted. Indeed, everyone except Hitler probably would still be convicted on all charges in this scenario.

But Hitler's own propaganda skills and way with twisting words, would be what gets him off in the end.
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« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2022, 09:58:00 AM »

^ All I can say is that this is ridiculous, and I encourage you to learn more about the trials.  Being casually antisemitic is not the same thing as Nazi ideology.  This is the kind of revisionist thinking that had some posters on this bored claiming that the segregationist South was sympathetic to Nazi ideology even though it was the most anti-Nazi/pro-Anglo area of the country since the outbreak of war and most pro-Nazi sentiment came from isolationists in the Midwest.  If you look at the evidence used to convict the defendants, there is absolutely zero chance Hitler is acquitted.  Zero.

I'm not saying all of the defendants would be acquitted. Indeed, everyone except Hitler probably would still be convicted on all charges in this scenario.

But Hitler's own propaganda skills and way with twisting words, would be what gets him off in the end.

If Hitler had a "way with words" why did he fail so hard with talking the Allies into surrendering, I wonder?

Winston Churchill was very stubborn.
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« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2022, 05:16:51 PM »

I'm surprised no one here has mentioned a Jack Ruby scenario had Hitler somehow been captured alive.

More of a Gaddafi scenario, but certainly.

It might have actually happened to Himmler, the details of that situation are rather sketchy.
What makes Himmler's death sketchy? All I know is that he was in Allied custody and popped cyanide. Is there more to it?

Mark Felton has a video on it as part of a series on Himmler at the end of the war. Basically the questionable aspect is the fact that he waited so long to pop the cyanide, had been searched previous and had for the most part been treated well. Felton dismisses the theory that he was beaten to death by his captors, but it was one that was circulating around for a while since not enough injuries were reported to his face to back that up.

The conspiracy types argue that the cyanide was forced into his mouth to silence any harmful information he might have about Churchill or the Royal family.
That's interesting. I do like the idea of Himmler getting some actual comeuppance over him weaseling out of it.

With regards to the theory about him having information, I can't imagine what information a dolt like Himmler would have over Churchill or the Royal family. Do you have any insight into what he knew allegedly?

Rudolf Hess is probably the only person who could have realistically had any information at all, and that's more because he flew to Britain and was captured there, then any information that he actually had.

Himmler probably had no blackmail on Churchill or anyone else in Britain, nor did anyone else in Nazi Germany.
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