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« on: September 06, 2022, 03:21:09 PM »
« edited: September 06, 2022, 09:11:39 PM by Christian Man »

Edit: Reworded it because the Nazi's who fled weren't technically refugees

My guess:

1948: Dewey (Although narrowly because Truman rebuilt Europe)
1952: Stevenson (It was Eisenhower that stopped the Nazi's after all)
1956: Stevenson  (Narrowly)
1960: Kennedy (Very narrowly)
1964: Johnson (Although only by single digits)
1968: Nixon (Narrowly)
1972-: Republican (By a wide margin) With the possible exception of Perot in '92 for the surviving ones although Carter would've been a bit narrower.
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« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2022, 07:13:04 PM »

Edit: Reworded it because the Nazi's who fled weren't technically refugees

My guess:

1948: Dewey (Although narrowly because Truman rebuilt Europe)
1952: Stevenson (It was Eisenhower that freed the Nazi's after all)
1956: Stevenson  (Narrowly)
1960: Kennedy (Very narrowly)
1964: Johnson (Although only by single digits)
1968: Nixon (Narrowly)
1972: Republican (By a wide margin) With the possible exception of Perot in '92 for the surviving ones although Carter would've been a bit narrower.

I was going to say Goldwater in 64 because of his opposition to the civil rights act and hardline anti-communism but then it occurred to me that they probably wouldn't solely because of his Jewish ancestry.

Incidentally this makes me think of a project I want to do at some point of looking at the precinct results going back of the German-American Settlement League neighborhood in Yaphank, LI.
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« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2022, 09:16:44 PM »

I very much doubt any Nazi who someone managed to sneak into the US is going to vote from 1948-1968

In 1948, they would still be sore about the war to support any American politican. Both Truman and Dewrey were pro internationlist.

Nor would they support anyone in 1952 or 1956. Eisenhower for obvious reasons and they would never support a New Deal Democrat. Considering Eisenhower won in a landslide, they might quietly vote for him to not look weird to their neighbors.

1960 might be too early. Both Nixon and Kennedy were WW2 vets and support civil rights.

1964 Goldwater is a Jew and LBJ is for civil rights

1968 might be their first election a Nazi would feel comortable voting in. For Nixon of course.

Every election afterwards is Republican
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« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2022, 10:39:57 PM »

I very much doubt any Nazi who someone managed to sneak into the US is going to vote from 1948-1968

In 1948, they would still be sore about the war to support any American politican. Both Truman and Dewrey were pro internationlist.

Nor would they support anyone in 1952 or 1956. Eisenhower for obvious reasons and they would never support a New Deal Democrat. Considering Eisenhower won in a landslide, they might quietly vote for him to not look weird to their neighbors.

1960 might be too early. Both Nixon and Kennedy were WW2 vets and support civil rights.

1964 Goldwater is a Jew and LBJ is for civil rights

1968 might be their first election a Nazi would feel comortable voting in. For Nixon of course.

Every election afterwards is Republican

If not Nixon then definitely Wallace. Weirdly I could see them voting for Kerry and Obama. Some far-rightists supported them because they saw them as less Zionist then Bush or McCain.
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« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2022, 05:17:09 PM »

I very much doubt any Nazi who someone managed to sneak into the US is going to vote from 1948-1968

In 1948, they would still be sore about the war to support any American politican. Both Truman and Dewrey were pro internationlist.

Nor would they support anyone in 1952 or 1956. Eisenhower for obvious reasons and they would never support a New Deal Democrat. Considering Eisenhower won in a landslide, they might quietly vote for him to not look weird to their neighbors.

1960 might be too early. Both Nixon and Kennedy were WW2 vets and support civil rights.

1964 Goldwater is a Jew and LBJ is for civil rights

1968 might be their first election a Nazi would feel comortable voting in. For Nixon of course.

Every election afterwards is Republican

If not Nixon then definitely Wallace. Weirdly I could see them voting for Kerry and Obama. Some far-rightists supported them because they saw them as less Zionist then Bush or McCain.

I think they would prefer Wallace over Nixon, and may only support the latter for strategic reasons.

Also let's not forget the weird third party candidates. Such a voter would be drawn to many of those.
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« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2022, 08:59:49 PM »

Interesting piece on Wernher von Braun of the Operation Paperclip Nazi scientists: https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/chasing-moon-von-braun-record-on-civil-rights/

"Von Braun's public conversion was now complete. His V-2 missiles which rained death on London gave birth to the Saturn V, which propelled men to the moon. Within 20 years he had evolved from potential war criminal and refugee to the savior of Huntsville and an American Cold War hero. In that same time he went from overseeing a program of forced labor to championing civil rights and racial integration in Alabama. Von Braun had dreamed since childhood of building the rocket that would put a human on the moon. It did not matter to him whether his support came from the regime that was led by Hitler’s hatred or by the Great Society-era inclusiveness of Lyndon Johnson. Regardless of what else was happening in the world, von Braun turned with the prevailing winds to achieve his singular devotion."
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« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2022, 06:38:13 AM »

Interesting piece on Wernher von Braun of the Operation Paperclip Nazi scientists: https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/chasing-moon-von-braun-record-on-civil-rights/

"Von Braun's public conversion was now complete. His V-2 missiles which rained death on London gave birth to the Saturn V, which propelled men to the moon. Within 20 years he had evolved from potential war criminal and refugee to the savior of Huntsville and an American Cold War hero. In that same time he went from overseeing a program of forced labor to championing civil rights and racial integration in Alabama. Von Braun had dreamed since childhood of building the rocket that would put a human on the moon. It did not matter to him whether his support came from the regime that was led by Hitler’s hatred or by the Great Society-era inclusiveness of Lyndon Johnson. Regardless of what else was happening in the world, von Braun turned with the prevailing winds to achieve his singular devotion."

Contrast Jack Parsons, Caltech's homegrown rocket scientist icon, who was blacklisted for his "subversive" political beliefs and involvement in Thelema (yes, that Thelema) after contributing greatly to the American war effort and popular science and then died in a mysterious accident, still conspiracy-theorized about to this day, while doing contract work for the fledgling Israeli military. Make u think
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« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2022, 10:15:11 AM »

It was called the National Socialist German Worker's Party, so they'd vote for whoever the Socialists nominated.
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« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2022, 02:41:55 PM »

It was called the National Socialist German Worker's Party, so they'd vote for whoever the Socialists nominated.

Even though the Socialists were all either Soviet aligned or too socially liberal even for most Democrats of the day? The party was called that to lie to German socialists of the 1930s. Try harder.
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