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« on: September 02, 2022, 12:49:52 AM »

I commend the already immense deficit reduction here, which doesn't even involve delaying our much-needed space exploration!
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« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2022, 03:59:19 PM »

Regarding the Financial Transaction Tax, I found this document from the CRS:
https://sgp.fas.org/crs/misc/R42078.pdf
which also led to another document analyzing something relatively similar to what we passed:
https://www.taxpolicycenter.org/sites/default/files/alfresco/publication-pdfs/2000587-financial-transaction-taxes.pdf

Rough estimate here but I'd say it's around $80 billion?
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« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2022, 05:17:51 AM »

Using the report I linked before as a base, my estimate is 497.2 Billion/10 years for the 0.1% on bonds and debentures, plus another 305.4 billion/10 years for the 0.5% on stocks. I'm not sure for the 0.005% in section III.3 of the bill which I'll link here: https://talkelections.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=466793.msg8290450#msg8290450

Even then that brings us up to approximately 80.26 Billion per year, on average. That'd bring the deficit down to 30.26 Billion/year, even with the CUBI remaining the same which is quite amazing.
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« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2022, 04:29:24 AM »

Any idea for the remaining part of the transaction tax?
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« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2022, 10:41:37 AM »

My current estimates already covered 80 billion or so of that estimate, but considering that the last section is easily the most expansive (and with the smallest % to make up for that), I'm willing to believe that $220 billion figure from the analysis he linked in the thread.
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« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2022, 07:50:55 PM »

Nay to raising taxes on low-earners.
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« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2022, 08:07:16 PM »

The way the amendment is worded doesn’t seem that way to me, because the way it looked it made the first group from 0/25k be 0-13k instead but switch to abstain since I’m not a fan of the higher income cuts
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« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2022, 02:11:32 PM »

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Administration of justice ($51.911752.29175 Billion)             
$27.157 Billion  $10 billion.... Federal law enforcement
$13.938 Billion.... Federal litigation and judicial activities             
$6.2687 Billion..... Federal prison system
$0.38 Billion….. Treating Incarcerated Prisoners Humanely Act (one-time)     
$0.00005 Billion….. TACMIF allocation for the above
$4.24 Billion..... Criminal justice assistance 
$0.74 Billion..... Federal Penitentiary Reform Act Provisions     
$-0.432 Billion…. General Criminal Justice Savings

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I assume the 27.157 billion is supposed to be crossed out and replaced with 10 billion, correct?
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« Reply #8 on: September 24, 2022, 02:14:39 PM »

Anyway, the previous DeadPrez and Cao amendments being declared friendly and with no objections have been adopted. Objection being noted on DeadPrez's new amendments, opening a vote for 96 hours for both, for time's sake and since I believe we've had that precedent before.

Amendment 1:
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Section 1: Revenues

Income Taxes:  $ 2,117,044,276,550.00  ($ 2,117.04 billion)
 by tax bracket (all revenue from each taxpayer is counted next to the bracket where their total income falls, including that from the parts of their income subject to lower rates)
 0-13K          10%   0% $ 12,700,800,000.00 ($ 12.70 billion)
 13K-50k      15%  0%   $ 297,239,775,000.00 ($ 297.24 billion)
 50K-75k       5%
75-130K   25% 15%   $ 812,899,937,500.00 ($ 812.90 billion)
 130K-210K  31%  $452,282,000,000.00 ($ 452.28 Billion)    
 210K-413K  38%  $317,099,000,000.00 ($ 317.10 Billion)
 413K-441K  45%   $ 68,463,281,250.00 ($ 68.46 billion)
 441K+      45% 50%   $ 156,359,482,800.00 ($ 156.36 billion)

Amendment 2:

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Administration of justice ($51.911752.29175 Billion)              
$27.157 Billion  $10 billion.... Federal law enforcement
$13.938 Billion.... Federal litigation and judicial activities              
$6.2687 Billion..... Federal prison system
$0.38 Billion….. Treating Incarcerated Prisoners Humanely Act (one-time)      
$0.00005 Billion….. TACMIF allocation for the above
$4.24 Billion..... Criminal justice assistance  
$0.74 Billion..... Federal Penitentiary Reform Act Provisions      
$-0.432 Billion…. General Criminal Justice Savings

As always, Aye, Nay or Abstain, senators.
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« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2022, 11:01:44 PM »

Abstain on both, I am a budget hawk but I'm realistic and I agree with yankee that the raises don't seem to make up for it.
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« Reply #10 on: October 06, 2022, 10:53:59 PM »

Abstain
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« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2022, 01:41:31 PM »

nay and nay.
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