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« on: August 26, 2022, 10:43:12 PM »

Do you believe that January 6th was considered a failed revolution?
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« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2022, 10:42:20 AM »

Yes. A revolution is not inherently just.
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« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2022, 01:19:41 PM »

No, to call it anything but a failed coup attempt is incorrect. A revolution requires the complete upending of the roots of society to something anew.
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« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2022, 01:48:45 PM »

No, to call it anything but a failed coup attempt is incorrect. A revolution requires the complete upending of the roots of society to something anew.

I think we all would have found out very quickly that this was the plan if it had succeeded.
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« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2022, 07:50:22 PM »

No, to call it anything but a failed coup attempt is incorrect. A revolution requires the complete upending of the roots of society to something anew.

I think we all would have found out very quickly that this was the plan if it had succeeded.
Nah, it wouldn’t really. Trump doesn’t have that sort of pull and people weren’t ready to die for the god emperor. Right now a lot of the Trump crowd is battered down and on the defensive from a lot of legal fees and arrests of a few key players. Now, if the attempt would have happened during the thick of 2020 around Chaz, they could’ve gone a bit farther.

I think we are all right for the most part until DeSantis gets coronated.
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« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2022, 04:20:59 PM »
« Edited: August 28, 2022, 04:25:28 PM by CentristRepublican »

A revolution towards authoritarianism and dictatorship, yes. A revolution meant to overturn the government - to overturn American democracy - and replace it with a fascist dictatorship? Sure. As Ferguson said quite accurately, not all revolutions are good things (though Big Abe may disagree). If we're saying it in the sense that a revolution is necessarily a good thing, and that this was a revolution that was a force of good, then absolutely not, it was not a revolution. And honestly, even otherwise, calling it a revolution (a terrible one), is probably a stretch. The attackers were incoherent rioters and buffoons with no actual coordinated plan. Aside from vandalising Congress and making a mess of the place, they didn't achieve anything (really, they were like infants - they were utterly incoherent and unintelligent, and they just made a mess all over the place, broke things and spread feces).
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« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2022, 02:54:28 AM »

All revolutions had at least someone smart or intelligent of note. These clowns did not.
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« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2022, 05:40:38 AM »

No because it lacked 1. mass support and 2. a realistic path to succeed.

If it had both it'd be a revolution. If it had the former but not the later it'd be a revolt/rebellion. If it had the latter but not the former it'd be a coup. As it stands, it was an insurrection.
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« Reply #8 on: September 03, 2022, 06:52:24 PM »
« Edited: September 03, 2022, 06:56:05 PM by Frodo »

It was the opening skirmish to a counter-revolution against the original (ongoing) revolution from 1776.  Whether we as a self-governing democracy and constitutional republic survive depends on the outcome of this war that was declared by Trump and his fellow reactionaries on that fateful day.  
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« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2022, 09:32:36 AM »

It was an attempted coup and an insurrection. Anyone claiming otherwise is a completely delusional hack.
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