SB 110-24: Yes, Virginia, There is a Federal Government Act of 2022 (Debating)
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« on: August 24, 2022, 04:55:46 PM »

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Yes, Virginia, There is a Federal Government Act of 2022

Senate Bill
to establish precedent in Federal Court


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1. The Federal Government recognizes the following Supreme Court decisions as valid and enforceable:

Federal power over intraregional activity
- McCulloch v. Maryland, 17 U.S. (4 Wheat.) 316 (1819)
- TX v. White, 74 U.S. 700, (1869)
- Wickard v Filburn, 317 U.S. 111 (1942)
- Reynolds v. Sims, 377 U.S. 533 (1964)
- Santa Clara Pueblo v. Martinez, 436 U.S. 49 (1978)
- Marquette Nat. Bank of Minneapolis v. First of Omaha Service Corp., 439 U.S. 299 (1978)
- Colautti v. Franklin, 439 U.S. 379 (1979)
- Bellotti v. Baird, 443 U.S. 622 (1979)
- Akron v. Akron Center for Reproductive Health, 462 U.S. 416 (1983)
- Morrison v. Olson, 487 U.S. 654 (1988)

Individual Rights Generally

- Calder v. Bull, 3 U.S. (3 Dall.) 386 (1798)
- Slaughterhouse, 83 U.S. 36 (1873)
- Jacobson v. MA, 197 U.S. 11 (1905)
- Roe v. Wade, 410 U.S. 113 (1973)
- Doe v. Bolton, 410 U.S. 179 (1973)
- Planned Parenthood v. Danforth, 428 U.S. 52 (1976)
- Moore v. East Cleveland, 431 U.S. 494 (1977)
- Regents of UC v. Bakke, 438 U.S. 265 (1978)
- Thornburgh v. American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists, 476 U.S. 747 (1986)
- Stenberg v. Carhart, 530 U.S. 914 (2000)
- Grutter v. Bolinger, 539 U.S. 306 (2003)

Speech, religion, and guns
- U.S. v. Miller, 307 U.S. 174 (1939)
-  Railway Employees' Dept. v. Hanson, 351 U.S. 225 (1956)
- One, Inc. v. Olesen, 355 U.S. 371 (1958)
- International Association of Machinists v. Street, 367 U.S. 740 (1961)
- Engel v. Vitale, 370 U.S. 421 (1962)
- Abington School District v. Schempp, 374 U.S. 203 (1963)
- New York Times Co. v. Sullivan, 376 U.S. 254 (1964)
- Jacobellis v. Ohio, 378 U.S. 184 (1964)
- Memoirs v. MA, 383 U.S. 413 (1966)
- Epperson v. Arkansas, 393 US 97 (1968)
- Lemon v. Kurtzman, 403 U.S. 602 (1971)
- Abood v. Detroit Board of Education, 431 U.S. 209 (1977)
- Stone v. Graham, 449 US 39 (1980)
- Wallace v. Jaffree, 472 U.S. 38 (1985)
- Edwards v. Aguillard, 482 US 578 (1987)
- Employment Division v. Smith, 494 U.S. 872 (1990)
- U.S. v. Kokinda, 497 U.S. 720 (1990)
- Lee v. Weisman, 505 U.S. 577 (1991)
- Reno v. ACLU, 521 U.S. 844 (1997)
- Santa Fe Independent School Dist. v. Doe, 530 U.S. 290 (2000)
- Ashcroft v. ACLU, 535 U.S. 564 (2002)

Property and Criminal
- Gideon v. Wainwright, 372 U.S. 335 (1963)
- Miranda v. AZ, 384 U.S. 436 (1966)
- Furman v. GA, 408 U.S. 238 (1972)
- Coker v. GA, 433 U.S. 584 (1977)
- Smith v. U.S., 508 U.S. 223 (1993)
- N.O.W. v. . Scheidler, 510 U.S. 249 (1994)

2. This act shall take effect immediately.


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« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2022, 08:27:43 PM »

This bill re-establishes a number of important pre-reset judicial precedents. This will help ensure that the Federal Government can enforce the law as it stands and maintain a uniform system of codes and regulations.

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« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2022, 06:59:01 AM »

Why this particular list? Morrison v olson has been pretty thoroughly discredited and is about an extremely obscure office. Kokinda says its ok to ban protesting on a sidewalk near a post office. Calder v bull incorrectly permits some ex post facto laws. Texas v White is flat out contradicted by the Atlasian in game Constitution. Smith v US was one of RBGs least favorite case outcomes. Its almost like you just took a list without researching its contents. Some of these opinions would be unconstitutional to adopt as statutory law. Very much a waste of time bill.
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« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2022, 08:51:13 AM »

An oversight on my part, I apologize. Presenting an amendment:

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Yes, Virginia, There is a Federal Government Act of 2022

Senate Bill
to establish precedent in Federal Court


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1. The Federal Government recognizes the following Supreme Court decisions as valid and enforceable:

Federal power over intraregional activity
- McCulloch v. Maryland, 17 U.S. (4 Wheat.) 316 (1819)
- TX v. White, 74 U.S. 700, (1869)
- Wickard v Filburn, 317 U.S. 111 (1942)
- Reynolds v. Sims, 377 U.S. 533 (1964)
- Santa Clara Pueblo v. Martinez, 436 U.S. 49 (1978)
- Marquette Nat. Bank of Minneapolis v. First of Omaha Service Corp., 439 U.S. 299 (1978)
- Colautti v. Franklin, 439 U.S. 379 (1979)
- Bellotti v. Baird, 443 U.S. 622 (1979)
- Akron v. Akron Center for Reproductive Health, 462 U.S. 416 (1983)
- Morrison v. Olson, 487 U.S. 654 (1988)

Individual Rights Generally

- Calder v. Bull, 3 U.S. (3 Dall.) 386 (1798)
- Slaughterhouse, 83 U.S. 36 (1873)
- Jacobson v. MA, 197 U.S. 11 (1905)
- Roe v. Wade, 410 U.S. 113 (1973)
- Doe v. Bolton, 410 U.S. 179 (1973)
- Planned Parenthood v. Danforth, 428 U.S. 52 (1976)
- Moore v. East Cleveland, 431 U.S. 494 (1977)
- Regents of UC v. Bakke, 438 U.S. 265 (1978)

- Thornburgh v. American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists, 476 U.S. 747 (1986)
- Stenberg v. Carhart, 530 U.S. 914 (2000)
- Grutter v. Bolinger, 539 U.S. 306 (2003)

Speech, religion, and guns
- U.S. v. Miller, 307 U.S. 174 (1939)
-  Railway Employees' Dept. v. Hanson, 351 U.S. 225 (1956)
- One, Inc. v. Olesen, 355 U.S. 371 (1958)
- International Association of Machinists v. Street, 367 U.S. 740 (1961)
- Engel v. Vitale, 370 U.S. 421 (1962)
- Abington School District v. Schempp, 374 U.S. 203 (1963)
- New York Times Co. v. Sullivan, 376 U.S. 254 (1964)
- Jacobellis v. Ohio, 378 U.S. 184 (1964)
- Memoirs v. MA, 383 U.S. 413 (1966)
- Epperson v. Arkansas, 393 US 97 (1968)
- Lemon v. Kurtzman, 403 U.S. 602 (1971)
- Abood v. Detroit Board of Education, 431 U.S. 209 (1977)
- Stone v. Graham, 449 US 39 (1980)
- Wallace v. Jaffree, 472 U.S. 38 (1985)
- Edwards v. Aguillard, 482 US 578 (1987)
- Employment Division v. Smith, 494 U.S. 872 (1990)
- U.S. v. Kokinda, 497 U.S. 720 (1990)
- Lee v. Weisman, 505 U.S. 577 (1991)
- Reno v. ACLU, 521 U.S. 844 (1997)
- Santa Fe Independent School Dist. v. Doe, 530 U.S. 290 (2000)
- Ashcroft v. ACLU, 535 U.S. 564 (2002)

Property and Criminal
- Gideon v. Wainwright, 372 U.S. 335 (1963)
- Miranda v. AZ, 384 U.S. 436 (1966)
- Furman v. GA, 408 U.S. 238 (1972)
- Coker v. GA, 433 U.S. 584 (1977)
- Smith v. U.S., 508 U.S. 223 (1993)
- N.O.W. v. . Scheidler, 510 U.S. 249 (1994)

2. This act shall take effect immediately.


I don’t think this is a waste of our time, considering a certain region is attempting to ignore a number of major precedents the Court has made with regards to civil rights and interstate commerce. Seems like a major issue to me.
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« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2022, 11:41:40 AM »

I support this.

24 hours for objections to the amendment.
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« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2022, 06:53:24 AM »

Objecting. I would like to know why roe and regents are being excluded.
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« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2022, 01:54:39 PM »
« Edited: August 27, 2022, 04:09:44 PM by Devout Centrist »

Restructuring my amendment:

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Yes, Virginia, There is a Federal Government Act of 2022

Senate Bill
to establish precedent in Federal Court


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1. The Federal Government recognizes the following Supreme Court decisions as valid and enforceable:

Federal power over intraregional activity
- McCulloch v. Maryland, 17 U.S. (4 Wheat.) 316 (1819)
- TX v. White, 74 U.S. 700, (1869)
- Wickard v Filburn, 317 U.S. 111 (1942)
- Reynolds v. Sims, 377 U.S. 533 (1964)
- Santa Clara Pueblo v. Martinez, 436 U.S. 49 (1978)
- Marquette Nat. Bank of Minneapolis v. First of Omaha Service Corp., 439 U.S. 299 (1978)
- Colautti v. Franklin, 439 U.S. 379 (1979)
- Bellotti v. Baird, 443 U.S. 622 (1979)
- Akron v. Akron Center for Reproductive Health, 462 U.S. 416 (1983)
- Morrison v. Olson, 487 U.S. 654 (1988)

Individual Rights Generally

- Calder v. Bull, 3 U.S. (3 Dall.) 386 (1798)
- Slaughterhouse, 83 U.S. 36 (1873)
- Jacobson v. MA, 197 U.S. 11 (1905)
- Roe v. Wade, 410 U.S. 113 (1973)
- Doe v. Bolton, 410 U.S. 179 (1973)
- Planned Parenthood v. Danforth, 428 U.S. 52 (1976)
- Moore v. East Cleveland, 431 U.S. 494 (1977)
- Regents of UC v. Bakke, 438 U.S. 265 (1978)
- Thornburgh v. American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists, 476 U.S. 747 (1986)
- Stenberg v. Carhart, 530 U.S. 914 (2000)
- Grutter v. Bolinger, 539 U.S. 306 (2003)

Speech, religion, and guns
- U.S. v. Miller, 307 U.S. 174 (1939)
-  Railway Employees' Dept. v. Hanson, 351 U.S. 225 (1956)
- One, Inc. v. Olesen, 355 U.S. 371 (1958)
- International Association of Machinists v. Street, 367 U.S. 740 (1961)
- Engel v. Vitale, 370 U.S. 421 (1962)
- Abington School District v. Schempp, 374 U.S. 203 (1963)
- New York Times Co. v. Sullivan, 376 U.S. 254 (1964)
- Jacobellis v. Ohio, 378 U.S. 184 (1964)
- Memoirs v. MA, 383 U.S. 413 (1966)
- Epperson v. Arkansas, 393 US 97 (1968)
- Lemon v. Kurtzman, 403 U.S. 602 (1971)
- Abood v. Detroit Board of Education, 431 U.S. 209 (1977)
- Stone v. Graham, 449 US 39 (1980)
- Wallace v. Jaffree, 472 U.S. 38 (1985)
- Edwards v. Aguillard, 482 US 578 (1987)
- Employment Division v. Smith, 494 U.S. 872 (1990)
- U.S. v. Kokinda, 497 U.S. 720 (1990)
- Lee v. Weisman, 505 U.S. 577 (1991)
- Reno v. ACLU, 521 U.S. 844 (1997)
- Santa Fe Independent School Dist. v. Doe, 530 U.S. 290 (2000)
- Ashcroft v. ACLU, 535 U.S. 564 (2002)

Property and Criminal
- Gideon v. Wainwright, 372 U.S. 335 (1963)
- Miranda v. AZ, 384 U.S. 436 (1966)
- Furman v. GA, 408 U.S. 238 (1972)
- Coker v. GA, 433 U.S. 584 (1977)
- Smith v. U.S., 508 U.S. 223 (1993)
- N.O.W. v. . Scheidler, 510 U.S. 249 (1994)

2. This act shall take effect immediately.
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« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2022, 05:03:27 PM »

The same people who were complicit or adjacent to efforts to burn down the system in the name of the age old "it's just a game" justification, cannot tolerate for game play purposes a region taking a different path on policy.

It was the same situation back in 2013/2014. The same people who wanted the burn down the regional system because "its just a game", couldn't accept the Mideast taking a different approach on abortion.

"It's just a game, provided you agree with me".

Abortion should be a regional issue, this was the general consensus after the Fourth Constitution.

I object to the revised amendment.
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« Reply #8 on: August 27, 2022, 05:28:09 PM »

It was the same situation back in 2013/2014. The same people who wanted the burn down the regional system because "its just a game", couldn't accept the Mideast taking a different approach on abortion.
How is this materially different from the current compromise on abortion that exists in game? I don't mind removing Roe v Wade from the bill, but it would be nice not to have people accuse me of trying to destroy the game itself every time there's a disagreement like this.
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« Reply #9 on: August 27, 2022, 05:31:28 PM »

It was the same situation back in 2013/2014. The same people who wanted the burn down the regional system because "its just a game", couldn't accept the Mideast taking a different approach on abortion.
How is this materially different from the current compromise on abortion that exists? I don't mind removing Roe v Wade from the bill, but it would be nice not to have people accuse me of trying to destroy the game itself every time there's a disagreement like this.

I didn't say "destroy the game" anywhere in my post.
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« Reply #10 on: August 28, 2022, 04:55:57 PM »

My mistake, I apologize for misreading your post.

My goal here isn't to crack down on the regions for having different policies on abortion or to make the game less fun for people at the regional level. With this bill, my hope is to restore the modern legal understanding of interstate commerce and to prevent regions from actively nullifying Federal law.
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« Reply #11 on: August 28, 2022, 07:38:47 PM »

My mistake, I apologize for misreading your post.

My goal here isn't to crack down on the regions for having different policies on abortion or to make the game less fun for people at the regional level. With this bill, my hope is to restore the modern legal understanding of interstate commerce and to prevent regions from actively nullifying Federal law.

So effectively this ends the "Truman Doctrine?"
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« Reply #12 on: August 28, 2022, 08:30:30 PM »

My mistake, I apologize for misreading your post.

My goal here isn't to crack down on the regions for having different policies on abortion or to make the game less fun for people at the regional level. With this bill, my hope is to restore the modern legal understanding of interstate commerce and to prevent regions from actively nullifying Federal law.

So effectively this ends the "Truman Doctrine?"
I don't think this bill goes that far; rather, this is meant to protect things like existing Federal environmental policy from being picked apart at the regional level.
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« Reply #13 on: September 05, 2022, 08:29:54 PM »

Opening a final vote in 24 hours
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« Reply #14 on: September 06, 2022, 08:31:53 PM »

A final vote is now open. Please vote Aye, Nay, or Abstain.
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« Reply #15 on: September 06, 2022, 08:34:18 PM »

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« Reply #16 on: September 06, 2022, 08:37:29 PM »

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« Reply #17 on: September 06, 2022, 08:40:55 PM »

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« Reply #18 on: September 06, 2022, 08:44:25 PM »

Aye
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« Reply #19 on: September 06, 2022, 08:58:05 PM »

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« Reply #20 on: September 06, 2022, 09:08:56 PM »

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« Reply #21 on: September 06, 2022, 09:23:33 PM »

Aye
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« Reply #22 on: September 06, 2022, 09:24:06 PM »

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« Reply #23 on: September 06, 2022, 09:43:33 PM »

Aye.
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« Reply #24 on: September 07, 2022, 05:06:49 AM »

Nay
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