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« Reply #25 on: August 15, 2022, 09:50:44 PM »

Also, can you imagine if a Democrat said this about a Republican senator? Republicans would be unanimously demanding his resignation, and some Democrats would be joining in...
 

This needs to happen more often - "party of the people and all that".

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« Reply #26 on: August 15, 2022, 09:51:02 PM »

Honestly... who cares? It's so weird to me when people make up hypotheticals just for the sake of getting angry about them. No Democrat is likely to say this about a Republican, so why bother entertaining the idea?

That's also kind of the point, no?

If you want to split hairs, no not really, they're two separate points. If he said "no Democrat would make a joke about Liz Cheney having a penis" I wouldn't have disagreed. Harry's post read more like "wah look at how my side is subject to different standards" which, like, yes dude we're all aware because we lived through the Trump administration. I don't think one really needs to conjure up self-deflating hypotheticals to explain why this kind of joke is dumb.
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« Reply #27 on: August 15, 2022, 10:00:36 PM »

Honestly... who cares? It's so weird to me when people make up hypotheticals just for the sake of getting angry about them. No Democrat is likely to say this about a Republican, so why bother entertaining the idea?

That's also kind of the point, no?

If you want to split hairs, no not really, they're two separate points. If he said "no Democrat would make a joke about Liz Cheney having a penis" I wouldn't have disagreed. Harry's post read more like "wah look at how my side is subject to different standards" which, like, yes dude we're all aware because we lived through the Trump administration. I don't think one really needs to conjure up self-deflating hypotheticals to explain why this kind of joke is dumb.

Ok, so your point as I understand it is essentially "yes we already know Republicans are loathsome, crude, hypocritical, and subject to their own set of standards that they never hold others to, but it's boring to keep pointing it out."  I would disagree.  If we don't keep pointing it out and reminding ourselves of this fact, we will all soon become accustomed to it, and eventually tolerant of it.
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« Reply #28 on: August 15, 2022, 10:04:14 PM »

This man is a humiliation to himself.  He's utter garbage.
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« Reply #29 on: August 15, 2022, 10:20:28 PM »

Honestly... who cares? It's so weird to me when people make up hypotheticals just for the sake of getting angry about them. No Democrat is likely to say this about a Republican, so why bother entertaining the idea?

That's also kind of the point, no?

If you want to split hairs, no not really, they're two separate points. If he said "no Democrat would make a joke about Liz Cheney having a penis" I wouldn't have disagreed. Harry's post read more like "wah look at how my side is subject to different standards" which, like, yes dude we're all aware because we lived through the Trump administration. I don't think one really needs to conjure up self-deflating hypotheticals to explain why this kind of joke is dumb.

Ok, so your point as I understand it is essentially "yes we already know Republicans are loathsome, crude, hypocritical, and subject to their own set of standards that they never hold others to, but it's boring to keep pointing it out."

I guess on some level, that is a cornerstone on my opinion of this yes. I just think it's kind of tedious how much of what counts as "talking elections" has become "can you believe how dumb and unprincipled these people are?" Which, yes, this is something that any half-awake person in the US in the last decade is aware of. I knew that in 2012 when I was knocking on doors for Barack Obama. There isn't anything really interesting here to uncover unless you want to beat your chest about how much more virtuous you are than them.

I posted a variation of this a couple days ago

Not really a take but it's annoying to me how much time people devote to trying to point out Republican inconsistencies as if they were "gotchas". E.g., "Kevin McCarthy said this recently, but two months ago he said this totally opposite thing!"

The GOP hasn't stood for any sort of principle other than the accumulation of power. If you ever took anything they said as anywhere close to reflective of their beliefs or true intentions, here have you been for the last decade-plus?

So yeah that is kind of my point. At this point it's like quoting lines from your favorite movie over and over again - it makes you feel good but otherwise it's hot air and everybody knows what's coming next. Especially if you're going to do what Harry was doing and try to, for the thousandth time, use it to mug up some indignation that paints you as the victim. It's boring.

I would disagree.  If we don't keep pointing it out and reminding ourselves of this fact, we will all soon become accustomed to it, and eventually tolerant of it.

I'm not really sure what you mean by "accustomed to" but that seems like a silly fear. Especially because, not only does the GOP not care what you are/are not "tolerant" of inasmuch as their behavior, but if anything they want you to be intolerant of them because it gives them satisfaction. If they care at all about what you and I think, it's only so they can continue pushing our buttons. They're reactionary in the worst possible way. I don't see what is to be gained by giving them what they want. You becoming "tolerant" of it would never make them stop.

I don't know. I just think this is all predictable and surface-level stuff - like watching people square dance. I wish there was more interesting stuff to talk about. I know I will never be able to stop you, Harry, Ferguson, etc. from posting outrage porn ("can you believe how stupid and unprincipled these people are???") no matter what I say. I've already started tuning this stuff out - at some point I'll give you guys what you want and stop coming to read this garbage altogether. I'm just not there yet.
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« Reply #30 on: August 15, 2022, 10:23:11 PM »

Not only is this obviously transphobic, it's also a question we have an answer for: Elizabeth Warren has given birth to two children.
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« Reply #31 on: August 15, 2022, 10:26:53 PM »

This sort of nonsense really shouldn’t be normalized.
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« Reply #32 on: August 15, 2022, 10:50:33 PM »

Not only is this obviously transphobic, it's also a question we have an answer for: Elizabeth Warren has given birth to two children.

Isn't it kinda transphobic to say someone with a penis can't give birth?
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« Reply #33 on: August 15, 2022, 11:54:24 PM »

Not only is this obviously transphobic, it's also a question we have an answer for: Elizabeth Warren has given birth to two children.

Isn't it kinda transphobic to say someone with a penis can't give birth?

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« Reply #34 on: August 16, 2022, 01:16:02 AM »

Not only is this obviously transphobic, it's also a question we have an answer for: Elizabeth Warren has given birth to two children.

Isn't it kinda transphobic to say someone with a penis can't give birth?
I don't know what's dumber, this post, or the fact that you thought it was clever.
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« Reply #35 on: August 16, 2022, 02:24:29 AM »

Unsurprising given they were saying this sort of thing about Hillary as far back as the late 90s.
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« Reply #36 on: August 16, 2022, 02:44:09 AM »

The only appropriate response.
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« Reply #37 on: August 16, 2022, 06:53:10 AM »

And here we have the answer to the question "why are there no right wing comedians?"
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« Reply #38 on: August 16, 2022, 07:18:05 AM »

And here we have the answer to the question "why are there no right wing comedians?"

Apparently the Daily Wire will be doing that on their new streaming service.
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« Reply #39 on: August 16, 2022, 10:08:39 AM »

Jesus Ted, shrieking like a madman is not a good look - even if I agreed with what he was saying, I would be pretty put off.

I agree with the first part of this.  Now the Liz Warrens of the World have brought some of this on themselves, but it's not somewhere a serious pol should go.  And Liz Warren is one of the few liberals to have been legitimately horrified of the spectre of pretrial J6 defendants being held in Solitary Confinement, so I'll even stand up for her a bit, as she didn't flush all of her principles about what's right and wrong, Constitutionally, down the toilet.

Ted Cruz would be better served, and would better serve America, by articulating the real reason to oppose much of the "trans" agenda.  The real reason is, of course, that it requires people to affirm many things as true which they believe to be false.  This is the most corrosive aspect of the "trans" agenda and how it's being pushed by the Left.

Lia Thomas is a biological male.  As is Caitlyn Jenner.  That's a fact, and it's a fact for every "trans woman" in creation, no matter how much you wish to assert otherwise.  Each one of them have a Y chromosome, which makes them biologically maie.  Science may one day accomplish the feat of enabling a truly biological female to become a truly biological male, and vice versa, but it has not done so yet, and it's a lie to say otherwise.  The effects of this on women are obvious, whether it be in the area of competition in women's sports to the safety of biological females in "women's" prisons. 

In a dignified way, politicians ought to respond to the ridiculousness of the "trans" agenda by pointing out where it is requiring people to declare the false to be true and demand an end to this.  This can be done without scads of transphobic backlash, but it needs to be done because of the effect of forcing people to affirm the false as true.  Lia Thomas is not a biological female, and while it's one thing to deliberately "misgender" her on a personal level, it is a far different to state that she is a biological male for the purposes of athletic competition. 

Is it fair to "trans female" athletes?  We ban athletes from competition for using all sorts of medical enhancements.  Should this not be viewed in the same light?  It's impossible to be "fair" to all in this debate, but I find it hard not to side with the group who (A) has the largest numbers, (B) would be the most deeply impacted, and (C) did nothing affirmative to change their condition other than train naturally.  I understand that the issue is more complicated than this.  Asking biological female athletes to bear (and bear alone) this particular burden that they did not choose to bring on themselves (and transitioning IS a choice).  We ought to discuss this in a dignified manner.  There are real issues of fairness and issues other than this simple one.  But "fairness" isn't "give the trans folks everything they demand", either.
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« Reply #40 on: August 16, 2022, 10:59:03 AM »

Lia Thomas is a biological male.  As is Caitlyn Jenner.  That's a fact, and it's a fact for every "trans woman" in creation, no matter how much you wish to assert otherwise.  Each one of them have a Y chromosome, which makes them biologically maie.
On the contrary, transgender women are capable of not having a Y chromosome (in fact, I know an XX trans woman through April Daniels's Patreon server). You're thinking of the SRY gene that causes these women to be born male.

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The effects of this on women are obvious, whether it be in the area of competition in women's sports to the safety of biological females in "women's" prisons.
Okay, I'll bite. What is it about transgender women that pose such danger to their cisgender counterparts in women's spaces? Especially those who are post-op--at least with pre/non-op trans women, you have the fact that they are bepeniled creatures as opposed to dongless chicks, but once a trans woman gets bottom surgery, she isn't that different from a cis woman. At least with women's sports, you've got Puberty Mk. I to explain the potential advantage (of course, you think if a woman were to avoid the male puberty she was expected to have, she still shouldn't compete with cis women, but I digress).

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In a dignified way, politicians ought to respond to the ridiculousness of the "trans" agenda by pointing out where it is requiring people to declare the false to be true and demand an end to this.  This can be done without scads of transphobic backlash, but it needs to be done because of the effect of forcing people to affirm the false as true.
You think trans people aren't aware that "the false" is false? You think I don't constantly think about the fact that, even once I get surgery, even once I get my name and gender legally changed, I will always feel like everybody is lying to me when they tell me I am who I say I am? That I will never be a woman, no matter how many lies I tell?
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« Reply #41 on: August 16, 2022, 11:02:28 AM »

Lia Thomas is a biological male.  As is Caitlyn Jenner.  That's a fact, and it's a fact for every "trans woman" in creation, no matter how much you wish to assert otherwise.  Each one of them have a Y chromosome, which makes them biologically maie.
On the contrary, transgender women are capable of not having a Y chromosome (in fact, I know an XX trans woman through April Daniels's Patreon server). You're thinking of the SRY gene that causes these women to be born male.

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The effects of this on women are obvious, whether it be in the area of competition in women's sports to the safety of biological females in "women's" prisons.
Okay, I'll bite. What is it about transgender women that pose such danger to their cisgender counterparts in women's spaces? Especially those who are post-op--at least with pre/non-op trans women, you have the fact that they are bepeniled creatures as opposed to dongless chicks, but once a trans woman gets bottom surgery, she isn't that different from a cis woman. At least with women's sports, you've got Puberty Mk. I to explain the potential advantage (of course, you think if a woman were to avoid the male puberty she was expected to have, she still shouldn't compete with cis women, but I digress).

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In a dignified way, politicians ought to respond to the ridiculousness of the "trans" agenda by pointing out where it is requiring people to declare the false to be true and demand an end to this.  This can be done without scads of transphobic backlash, but it needs to be done because of the effect of forcing people to affirm the false as true.
You think trans people aren't aware that "the false" is false? You think I don't constantly think about the fact that, even once I get surgery, even once I get my name and gender legally changed, I will always feel like everybody is lying to me when they tell me I am who I say I am? That I will never be a woman, no matter how many lies I tell?

I'm sure you realize that.  It's what the rest of us are being intimidated into acknowledging.  The athletic establishment has declared Lia Thomas a female and required competitors to acknowledge her as such.  That has consequences for biologically female athletes who expected to only have to compete against females in their athletic careers.
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« Reply #42 on: August 16, 2022, 11:07:11 AM »

The "athletic establishment" has ruled that Lia Thomas is no longer allowed to compete as a woman, but Fuzzy just can't take the W.
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« Reply #43 on: August 16, 2022, 11:36:36 AM »

Now the Liz Warrens of the World have brought some of this on themselves, but it's not somewhere a serious pol should go.

Ted Cruz would be better served, and would better serve America, by articulating the real reason to oppose much of the "trans" agenda.

I suppose this is the closest we'll get to Fuzzy Bear denouncing this disgusting 'joke' told by a member of his own political tribe.
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« Reply #44 on: August 16, 2022, 11:39:30 AM »

He'll have you know he's far more well endowed than most with a 2.4 inch punisher
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« Reply #45 on: August 16, 2022, 11:42:25 AM »

I shouldn't be laughing so hard right now.  I should be tut-tutting and moralizing.  Alas, it's not happening.
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« Reply #46 on: August 16, 2022, 01:17:09 PM »

Ted Cruz, as always, showing everyone that he's about as charming and charismatic as a blob fish.
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« Reply #47 on: August 16, 2022, 01:19:41 PM »

Translation: "Please, God Emperor, make me your running mate in 2024! Listen to me, Mr. President, please! I want to be your humble servant, even if you called my dad a murderer."
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« Reply #48 on: August 16, 2022, 03:19:02 PM »

Republican campaign rallies and debates have devolved into more raunchy unfunny standup comedy routines rather than political rallies.
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« Reply #49 on: August 16, 2022, 03:26:01 PM »

Not only is this obviously transphobic, it's also a question we have an answer for: Elizabeth Warren has given birth to two children.

Isn't it kinda transphobic to say someone with a penis can't give birth?
I don't know what's dumber, this post, or the fact that you thought it was clever.

You're the expert on not being clever, so I'll take your word for it.
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