Opinion of swedish conservative policies

[buritobr]

Although Sweden is considered the heaven of the progressives, the country has some policies more related to the right than to the left.
Sweden had different policies to the Covid19 compared to most of the world.
Sweden has the most prohibitionist weed policy of the western world.
In Sweden, people who sell sex work don't go to jail, but people who buy do.
Sweden has more strict weapon controls than the US, but unlike some European countries in which only police and military can own weapons, in Sweden, it's possible for citizens to have a license.
Sweden is one of the few OECD countries in which there is no inheritance tax. This tax was abolished in 2004.
Sweden tried the Friedman experience of the vouchers for private schools.
The swedish monarch is only a figurehead, but monarchy is a conservative institution

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

Poll only allows you to choose one.

[LAKISYLVANIA]

I support only one and it's the "no lockdown" policy.

And to be fair, that should be a leftist policy.

The fact that this is considered a right-wing policy today, exactly sums up why the left is being destroyed in nation after nation after nation (being a key indicator/example). The liberal left is associated with authoritarianism and lack of freedoms.

Secondly, that Sweden is a heaven for progressives is a myth and factually untrue.

[Make America Grumpy Again]

I support only one and it's the "no lockdown" policy.

And to be fair, that should be a leftist policy.

The fact that this is considered a right-wing policy today, exactly sums up why the left is being destroyed in nation after nation after nation (being a key indicator/example). The liberal left is associated with authoritarianism and lack of freedoms.

Secondly, that Sweden is a heaven for progressives is a myth and factually untrue.

This. I have little doubt if Covid happened 15+ years earlier it would've been the GOP pushing for lockdowns and mandates and the Dems complaining about infringing rights, as I opposed the lockdowns and initally the mask mandates because I was concerned about the lack of respect for civil liberties. It's incredible looking back at how much the two parties have shifted in respect to that, even if most of the GOP is authoritarian in different ways.

Also, Bernie & co talks about wanting to turn the US into Denmark & Sweden but neither of those countries are Socialistic. Even though I don't consider them to be Socialists, calling them as such gives people the wrong idea of what  that means. There is a difference between social democrats and democratic socialists that most Americans are unaware of and they're not interchangeable.

[RINO Tom]

I support only one and it's the "no lockdown" policy.

And to be fair, that should be a leftist policy.

The fact that this is considered a right-wing policy today, exactly sums up why the left is being destroyed in nation after nation after nation (being a key indicator/example). The liberal left is associated with authoritarianism and lack of freedoms.

Secondly, that Sweden is a heaven for progressives is a myth and factually untrue.

This. I have little doubt if Covid happened 15+ years earlier it would've been the GOP pushing for lockdowns and mandates and the Dems complaining about infringing rights, as I opposed the lockdowns and initally the mask mandates because I was concerned about the lack of respect for civil liberties. It's incredible looking back at how much the two parties have shifted in respect to that, even if most of the GOP is authoritarian in different ways.

Also, Bernie & co talks about wanting to turn the US into Denmark & Sweden but neither of those countries are Socialistic. Even though I don't consider them to be Socialists, calling them as such gives people the wrong idea of what  that means. There is a difference between social democrats and democratic socialists that most Americans are unaware of and they're not interchangeable.

That minor distinction is hardly the problem with that line of thinking, lol … those countries can spend their money the way they do because they’re effectively subsidized by America for spending on military protection, technological innovation, medical research, cultural/media consumption, etc.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

Sweden handled COVID well, despite the criticism in media thinkpieces that claimed to the contrary.

[S019]

The marijuana one is probably the one that I'd support the most

[buritobr]

I made a mistake. I forgot to include multiple answer. But OK: just choose the one you think it is the best one even if you agree to some others.

[LAKISYLVANIA]

I support only one and it's the "no lockdown" policy.

And to be fair, that should be a leftist policy.

The fact that this is considered a right-wing policy today, exactly sums up why the left is being destroyed in nation after nation after nation (being a key indicator/example). The liberal left is associated with authoritarianism and lack of freedoms.

Secondly, that Sweden is a heaven for progressives is a myth and factually untrue.

This. I have little doubt if Covid happened 15+ years earlier it would've been the GOP pushing for lockdowns and mandates and the Dems complaining about infringing rights, as I opposed the lockdowns and initally the mask mandates because I was concerned about the lack of respect for civil liberties. It's incredible looking back at how much the two parties have shifted in respect to that, even if most of the GOP is authoritarian in different ways.

Also, Bernie & co talks about wanting to turn the US into Denmark & Sweden but neither of those countries are Socialistic. Even though I don't consider them to be Socialists, calling them as such gives people the wrong idea of what  that means. There is a difference between social democrats and democratic socialists that most Americans are unaware of and they're not interchangeable.

The thing is that a lot of Americans even fail to make the distinction between social democrats and marxist-leninists, it's all framed as USSR-style of communism so they need to be eradicated, are radical and are antisemitist and stand for authoritarianism. Basically everything "socialist" is associated with authoritarianism. This is due to decades of anti-USSR propaganda during the Cold War, as well as a lot of Americans living in more rural areas compared to Europe or Canada, and America having a large military and being imperialist, sometimes out of necessity.

Social democracy is a term barely used in America, and basically a term you shouldn't use since it can be toxic to use. Democratic socialism is a term barely used in Europe. I've barely heard that term here. They're essentially the same but Democratic socialism has more of an emphasis on socialism while social democracy has the emphasis on democracy. But democratic socialism indicates they want to achieve a more socialist society through democratic means.

Social democrats in Europe are often no different from Democrats in the USA, especially today. It used to be different in the 20st century, but today there are little differences, largely due to social democrats shifting to more Blairist/neoliberal economic views due to the Reagan-Clinton years/shift, where (social) democrats had to shift to the right, because they weren't able to defeat Reagan or Thatcher or faced 1994-like midterms.

The USA is also different in that it has two parties and basically all European christian democrats, modern liberals, social democrats would all be Democrats in the USA. It's only the conservatives, far-right & perhaps some right-wing liberals and right-wing christian democrats in some countries that would be identified as the GOP. And far-leftists stay on the fringe side or have to fit within the Democratic model (and their constituency) if they want to be politically succesful.

[Make America Grumpy Again]

I support only one and it's the "no lockdown" policy.

And to be fair, that should be a leftist policy.

The fact that this is considered a right-wing policy today, exactly sums up why the left is being destroyed in nation after nation after nation (being a key indicator/example). The liberal left is associated with authoritarianism and lack of freedoms.

Secondly, that Sweden is a heaven for progressives is a myth and factually untrue.

This. I have little doubt if Covid happened 15+ years earlier it would've been the GOP pushing for lockdowns and mandates and the Dems complaining about infringing rights, as I opposed the lockdowns and initally the mask mandates because I was concerned about the lack of respect for civil liberties. It's incredible looking back at how much the two parties have shifted in respect to that, even if most of the GOP is authoritarian in different ways.

Also, Bernie & co talks about wanting to turn the US into Denmark & Sweden but neither of those countries are Socialistic. Even though I don't consider them to be Socialists, calling them as such gives people the wrong idea of what  that means. There is a difference between social democrats and democratic socialists that most Americans are unaware of and they're not interchangeable.

The thing is that a lot of Americans even fail to make the distinction between social democrats and marxist-leninists, it's all framed as USSR-style of communism so they need to be eradicated, are radical and are antisemitist and stand for authoritarianism. Basically everything "socialist" is associated with authoritarianism. This is due to decades of anti-USSR propaganda during the Cold War, as well as a lot of Americans living in more rural areas compared to Europe or Canada, and America having a large military and being imperialist, sometimes out of necessity.

Social democracy is a term barely used in America, and basically a term you shouldn't use since it can be toxic to use. Democratic socialism is a term barely used in Europe. I've barely heard that term here. They're essentially the same but Democratic socialism has more of an emphasis on socialism while social democracy has the emphasis on democracy. But democratic socialism indicates they want to achieve a more socialist society through democratic means.

Social democrats in Europe are often no different from Democrats in the USA, especially today. It used to be different in the 20st century, but today there are little differences, largely due to social democrats shifting to more Blairist/neoliberal economic views due to the Reagan-Clinton years/shift, where (social) democrats had to shift to the right, because they weren't able to defeat Reagan or Thatcher or faced 1994-like midterms.

The USA is also different in that it has two parties and basically all European christian democrats, modern liberals, social democrats would all be Democrats in the USA. It's only the conservatives, far-right & perhaps some right-wing liberals and right-wing christian democrats in some countries that would be identified as the GOP. And far-leftists stay on the fringe side or have to fit within the Democratic model (and their constituency) if they want to be politically succesful.

Interesting analysis but why is the term social democrat toxic?

[LAKISYLVANIA]

I support only one and it's the "no lockdown" policy.

And to be fair, that should be a leftist policy.

The fact that this is considered a right-wing policy today, exactly sums up why the left is being destroyed in nation after nation after nation (being a key indicator/example). The liberal left is associated with authoritarianism and lack of freedoms.

Secondly, that Sweden is a heaven for progressives is a myth and factually untrue.

This. I have little doubt if Covid happened 15+ years earlier it would've been the GOP pushing for lockdowns and mandates and the Dems complaining about infringing rights, as I opposed the lockdowns and initally the mask mandates because I was concerned about the lack of respect for civil liberties. It's incredible looking back at how much the two parties have shifted in respect to that, even if most of the GOP is authoritarian in different ways.

Also, Bernie & co talks about wanting to turn the US into Denmark & Sweden but neither of those countries are Socialistic. Even though I don't consider them to be Socialists, calling them as such gives people the wrong idea of what  that means. There is a difference between social democrats and democratic socialists that most Americans are unaware of and they're not interchangeable.

The thing is that a lot of Americans even fail to make the distinction between social democrats and marxist-leninists, it's all framed as USSR-style of communism so they need to be eradicated, are radical and are antisemitist and stand for authoritarianism. Basically everything "socialist" is associated with authoritarianism. This is due to decades of anti-USSR propaganda during the Cold War, as well as a lot of Americans living in more rural areas compared to Europe or Canada, and America having a large military and being imperialist, sometimes out of necessity.

Social democracy is a term barely used in America, and basically a term you shouldn't use since it can be toxic to use. Democratic socialism is a term barely used in Europe. I've barely heard that term here. They're essentially the same but Democratic socialism has more of an emphasis on socialism while social democracy has the emphasis on democracy. But democratic socialism indicates they want to achieve a more socialist society through democratic means.

Social democrats in Europe are often no different from Democrats in the USA, especially today. It used to be different in the 20st century, but today there are little differences, largely due to social democrats shifting to more Blairist/neoliberal economic views due to the Reagan-Clinton years/shift, where (social) democrats had to shift to the right, because they weren't able to defeat Reagan or Thatcher or faced 1994-like midterms.

The USA is also different in that it has two parties and basically all European christian democrats, modern liberals, social democrats would all be Democrats in the USA. It's only the conservatives, far-right & perhaps some right-wing liberals and right-wing christian democrats in some countries that would be identified as the GOP. And far-leftists stay on the fringe side or have to fit within the Democratic model (and their constituency) if they want to be politically succesful.

Interesting analysis but why is the term social democrat toxic?

It's toxic in the United States, because it has the word "social" in it, and lots of people, maybe not all, but lots associate it with communism which is associated with authoritarianism, the cold war, lack of economic growth, Russia, big state and politicians trying to take your freedom away.

[Kahane's Grave Is A Gender-Neutral Bathroom]

I support only one and it's the "no lockdown" policy.

And to be fair, that should be a leftist policy.

The fact that this is considered a right-wing policy today, exactly sums up why the left is being destroyed in nation after nation after nation (being a key indicator/example). The liberal left is associated with authoritarianism and lack of freedoms.

Secondly, that Sweden is a heaven for progressives is a myth and factually untrue.

This. I have little doubt if Covid happened 15+ years earlier it would've been the GOP pushing for lockdowns and mandates and the Dems complaining about infringing rights, as I opposed the lockdowns and initally the mask mandates because I was concerned about the lack of respect for civil liberties. It's incredible looking back at how much the two parties have shifted in respect to that, even if most of the GOP is authoritarian in different ways.

Also, Bernie & co talks about wanting to turn the US into Denmark & Sweden but neither of those countries are Socialistic. Even though I don't consider them to be Socialists, calling them as such gives people the wrong idea of what  that means. There is a difference between social democrats and democratic socialists that most Americans are unaware of and they're not interchangeable.

That minor distinction is hardly the problem with that line of thinking, lol … those countries can spend their money the way they do because they’re effectively subsidized by America for spending on military protection, technological innovation, medical research, cultural/media consumption, etc.

They can spend the way they do because they have like an insane 25% VAT

[VPH]

Making it illegal to buy sex work, the monarchy, and legal guns

[nclib]

Wow. Wasn't expecting this. In 2004, Gustaf said he was far-right for Sweden, but would have voted for Kerry if he lived in the U.S. I don't support any of these.

[LAKISYLVANIA]

Wow. Wasn't expecting this. In 2004, Gustaf said he was far-right for Sweden, but would have voted for Kerry if he lived in the U.S. I don't support any of these.

I think the extent of how the nordic countries are labelled as among the most progressive nations, or "the nordic social democratic model" has been widely exaggerated and overblown. However, economically the USA in comparison is quite right-wing compared to similar nations, but that basically applies to every other nation with a similar standard to the US. (healthcare system for example, it's not Swedens that's unique, it's more the US healthcare system that is unique).

On social issues, nowadays, there is little difference. In a lot of ways, the USA is even ahead of nations like Sweden on progressive issues (cannabis legislation for example in some states). And aside of the broken criminal justice system, the USA is probably better when it comes to drug legislation than most of Europe. People here tend to minimalize alcohol problems, even filmmakers and politicians, but are very conservative and non-tolerant when it comes to other drugs. That's different in the USA and Canada i feel.