FBI search warrant executed at Mar-a-Lago (Update: Trump Indicted!)

[brucejoel99]

His judge:

https://twitter.com/marcacaputo/status/1563637809541431296

[brucejoel99]

Nvm:

https://twitter.com/braddmossesq/status/1563637421270523904

[The Dowager Mod]

Typical Trump appointee.
https://twitter.com/cnylvr/status/1563652103356428289

[American2020]

According to George Galloway

https://twitter.com/georgegalloway/status/1560582293860691968

Incredible the fact many tankies like to make an alliance with Magas to undermine democracies.

[Darthpi – Anti-Florida Activist]

According to George Galloway

https://twitter.com/georgegalloway/status/1560582293860691968

Incredible the fact many tankies like to make an alliance with Magas to undermine democracies.

The weird strain of leftism that views all intelligence agency operations as inherently illegitimate is so out of touch with reality that it's hard to even comprehend it. It's the same nonsense that leads Glenn Greenwald to end up supporting Bolsonaro.

[Torrain]

Gotta remember guys, this is George Galloway. The man who set up the hard-left “Workers Party”, in the same year  that he endorsed the right wing, Nigel Farage-led Brexit Party.

Whatever his personal politics actually are (and we’re talking about a guy still on RT’s payroll, so that may be a worthless metric), he’s made some bizarre alliances over the years.

[BlueSwan]

Horse-shoe theory proven right yet again.

[Kahane's Grave Is A Gender-Neutral Bathroom]

According to George Galloway

https://twitter.com/georgegalloway/status/1560582293860691968

Incredible the fact many tankies like to make an alliance with Magas to undermine democracies.

The weird strain of leftism that views all intelligence agency operations as inherently illegitimate is so out of touch with reality that it's hard to even comprehend it. It's the same nonsense that leads Glenn Greenwald to end up supporting Bolsonaro.

When in doubt, blame the CIA!
-Unofficial motto of r/GenZedong

[wbrocks67]

They can't be this dumb, right? Or are they just completely ignorant?

https://twitter.com/rickklein/status/1563877373971501056

[Sir Mohamed]

This is so embarrassing.

https://twitter.com/axios/status/1563888973860290560

[DaleCooper]

This is so embarrassing.

https://twitter.com/axios/status/1563888973860290560

It's embarrassing but not surprising. Again, Trump supporters tend to be quite savage and feral so this type of behavior should be expected.

[pbrower2a]

https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000182-daec-dfd1-adef-dafe79d30000


I read the document in its entirety. My takeaways are 1) sensitive documents were intermixed with non sensitive ones in a chaotic fashion, which is not up to archival standards to say the least, 2) all the reasons for the redactions were also redacted in the chart except the one for "agent safety," and 3) the DOJ seemed annoyed that Trump had issued a statement that the government found nothing improper in the documents that he voluntarily gave them pursuant to their request last February.

What one otherwise could read was boilerplate about why releasing affidavits compromises criminal investigations.

Not much to see here overall. And the chaotic organization and filing system or lack of a system suggests feckless incompetence (cf "orange buffoon"), rather than something more sinister.  All in all not that much additional bad news here for Trump, at least that is not covered up in black. So things have not yet been brought to a head, and the boil lanced.

We now I will see what the MSM big guns think as compared to what the forum fossil thinks.

1. Mixture of sensitive and non-sensitive documents excuses nothing.

2. What is covered includes the affiant and the FBI Special Agent leading the case. There could also be   CIA and DIA officials and experts in nuclear secrets. It is easy to understand the resentments that people in such positions might have about knowing the close scrutiny and the consequences for disseminating such information  that anyone could get unauthorized access to such material and then abuse it.

3. There could be fears that the ex-President could be seeking to flee the United States for places in which such information would be extremely valuable to the intelligence and military services of a potentially-dangerous adversary.  

4. Feckless buffoons do much crime, and often horrific crimes. This may include the person who arranges a murder conspiracy for collection of insurance proceeds, the usual bank robber, and the bulk of drug dealers. That the offender is of marginal competence at doing the crime -- well, ideally we do not promote expertise in committing such crimes, do we, through our educational system? -- the legal system offers those buffoons no mercy in trial or sentencing.  

I hope you did not infer that I thought that the contents of the released redacted affidavit suggests that Trump has less legal exposure than was previously thought. It just didn't in the non-redacted bits contain exacerbatory smoking gun stuff that leaves only the exact date of the filing of the inevitable indictment on the table. It just didn't move the legal ball very much from where it was is my take.

I had mused myself about Trump fleeing the country, to Putin's dacca or something. The thing is though, is that he has all those secret service agents following him around. So he would have to lose them first to slip away. Maybe a Russian sub could get near MAL, and then he could hop into a helo and zip over to it as it surfaces, hop off and zip down the hatch as the sub submerges again.  Then Biden would need to ponder what to do about that sub. Not sure whether it should have nukes on it or not.

Yes, I know the script needs some work, before I submit it to the appropriate studio for production. For example, Trump would need to know something, or have something, that he could give to Putin, that would change the world, to ramp up the intensity to where it needs to be get the jaded audiences out of their stupor.  Be patient.

At this point, Trump seems a feckless buffoon. He needed active military support to get his way, and he obviously did not get it during the Capitol Putsch.

I suspect that even if he didn't hand over documents himself, then people connected to Russia could get at the least photographic images rather easily. Mar-a-Lago is a high-security place only for the safety of the ex-President.  Someone could easily enter with a Minox camera (maybe some Mata Hari type convinces him that that spy camera is a sex toy) and do some f--ing with it... f--ing with classified documents).   

As we all know, Vladimir Putrid has enough problems now with his bungled invasion of Ukraine, and his #1 non-financial asset in America coming under legal scrutiny has to be a great

[Kahane's Grave Is A Gender-Neutral Bathroom]

This is so embarrassing.

https://twitter.com/axios/status/1563888973860290560

The funniest thing here is the idea Trump supporters know what the National Archives are.

[Penn_Quaker_Girl]

This is so embarrassing.

https://twitter.com/axios/status/1563888973860290560

The little girl at the front of the picture looks MIGHTY suspicious....

[Darthpi – Anti-Florida Activist]

I miss the days when this was the only threat to the National Archives

[GeorgiaModerate]

This is so embarrassing.

https://twitter.com/axios/status/1563888973860290560

The funniest thing here is the idea Trump supporters know what the National Archives are.

Don't they often eat at the Golden Archives?

[It’s so Joever]

I miss the days when this was the only threat to the National Archives

Actually it was the Articles of Confederation thank you very much! (I wanted the Declaration but it was too heavily monitored)

[American2020]

https://twitter.com/Juanch110/status/1556706170290716677

[pbrower2a]

This is so embarrassing.

https://twitter.com/axios/status/1563888973860290560

LOCK THEM UP!

It looks like threats to public officials doing their job, and hence obstruction of justice.

LOCK THEM UP!

(only if duly convicted in a court of law, of course).

[GeorgiaModerate]

Speaking of threats...

https://twitter.com/AndrewFeinberg/status/1564033687754268673

[GeorgiaModerate]

Useful thread here.  Click to read the whole thing.

https://twitter.com/BVanGrack/status/1563877511108468745

[Inmate Trump]

As horrible as violent protests would be, the threat and likelihood of it shouldn’t negate any punishment for crimes if it’s proven Trump did commit them.

[Badger]

Speaking of threats...

https://twitter.com/AndrewFeinberg/status/1564033687754268673

Jesus christ. And their headline feed is about Hunter f****** biden. No wonder Republicans literally live in a fantasy world and are completely detached from reality when it comes to democracy and government.

[Torie]

Lindsay Graham talks way too much. Sad the media feels the need to feed this particular troll.
He doesn't know any more than we do, but he gets the headlines for just speculating sh*t basically. On this site a Mod might deem it spam and delete.

Moving right along, the article below is behind a paywall, but the NYT basically says the DOJ is a long way away from making a decision as to whether to indict Trump or not on the documents retention and obstruction issue, is well aware of the stakes, and would only go there with an airtight case. And that means as I interpret it, there needs to be a plus factor, e.g., that some of the documents are so sensitive that if in the wrong hands would imperil lives or important national interests, that Trump knew he had and refused to give up, or that he was personally involved in lying to the DOJ, actions shocking to the conscience. A violation of the law arising from mere negligence won't cut it, just as it didn't cut it for Hillary.

Right now there are a lot of unanswered questions that the DOJ needs to run to ground, and it has a lot of work still to do before making a recommendation for Garland to ponder. I suspect this story will leave the front pages for awhile, unless more leaks from the investigation wind their way into the public square, or a witness leaks.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/29/us/politics/trump-justice-department-documents.html?

[Inmate Trump]

Graham is laying the groundwork for violent protests.

He's essentially telling the MAGA troops to gear up and be ready to move.