FBI search warrant executed at Mar-a-Lago (Update: Trump Indicted!)

[emailking]

From the article

A person familiar with the matter said the storage unit had a mix of boxes, gifts, suits and clothes, among other things. “It was suits and swords and wrestling belts and all sorts of things,” this person said. “To my knowledge, he has never even been to that storage unit. I don’t think anyone in Trump world could tell you what’s in that storage unit.”

Swords? lol

[ProudModerate2]

https://twitter.com/SpiroAgnewGhost/status/1600555919477133312

A storage unit???

This man has no care, what so ever, to safeguard the secrets of our nation.
Yet people like fuzzy would be happy to have him back.

[President Johnson]

https://twitter.com/SpiroAgnewGhost/status/1600555919477133312

A storage unit???

More classified stuff? Buh her e-mails!

[Torie]

https://twitter.com/SpiroAgnewGhost/status/1600555919477133312
A storage unit???

More classified stuff? Buh her e-mails!

That is on the mainland, and I don't think a storage unit was ever mentioned before. I wonder why Trump was not subpoenaed on this to get him to lie under oath, or take the 5th. Mr. president, in what locations did you store documents that were taken from the White House?

Trump would not be caught dead himself in a place as downmarket as W Palm Beach.

[Inmate Trump]

https://twitter.com/SpiroAgnewGhost/status/1600555919477133312

A storage unit???

This man has no care, what so ever, to safeguard the secrets of our nation.
Yet people like fuzzy would be happy to have him back.

The people who would still support him would be fine if America dissolved completely so long as whatever remained was ruled over by a MAGA Republican.

In other words, those same people are not our countrymen and women anymore.

[Badger]

https://twitter.com/SpiroAgnewGhost/status/1600555919477133312

A storage unit???

It's good to know that nearly all Republicans over the last several years have adamantly supported someone who thinks it's perfectly okay to take classified government documents home and store them next to some burned out Christmas lights.

[GeorgiaModerate]

https://twitter.com/rgoodlaw/status/1601009703663722496

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/08/politics/doj-trump-contempt-classified-documents/index.html

The Justice Department is asking a federal judge to hold Donald Trump in contempt of court for failing to comply with a subpoena issued this summer ordering the former president to turn over records marked classified, two sources familiar with the matter told CNN.

The development comes after Trump’s legal team said it conducted searches at four locations just before Thanksgiving, finding two documents with classified markings at a storage facility in Florida. The Trump team turned over those two documents to the FBI and announced to a federal judge in Washington, DC, that they believed Trump was now in compliance with a 6-month-old subpoena.

But the Justice Department disagreed. And in an escalation last week, department prosecutors told DC District Chief Judge Beryl Howell, who oversees federal grand jury proceedings there, that the searches weren’t satisfactory. The contempt proceedings before Howell are under seal.

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/08/politics/doj-trump-contempt-classified-documents/index.html

The Justice Department is asking a federal judge to hold Donald Trump in contempt of court for failing to comply with a subpoena issued this summer ordering the former president to turn over records marked classified, two sources familiar with the matter told CNN.

The development comes after Trump’s legal team said it conducted searches at four locations just before Thanksgiving, finding two documents with classified markings at a storage facility in Florida. The Trump team turned over those two documents to the FBI and announced to a federal judge in Washington, DC, that they believed Trump was now in compliance with a 6-month-old subpoena.

But the Justice Department disagreed. And in an escalation last week, department prosecutors told DC District Chief Judge Beryl Howell, who oversees federal grand jury proceedings there, that the searches weren’t satisfactory. The contempt proceedings before Howell are under seal.

Good. Hopefully he goes to jail for this too, as a little appetizer.

But that excerpt is interesting - does it mean the DoJ thinks that there are yet more documents out there?

[Torie]

https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/08/politics/doj-trump-contempt-classified-documents/index.html

The Justice Department is asking a federal judge to hold Donald Trump in contempt of court for failing to comply with a subpoena issued this summer ordering the former president to turn over records marked classified, two sources familiar with the matter told CNN.

The development comes after Trump’s legal team said it conducted searches at four locations just before Thanksgiving, finding two documents with classified markings at a storage facility in Florida. The Trump team turned over those two documents to the FBI and announced to a federal judge in Washington, DC, that they believed Trump was now in compliance with a 6-month-old subpoena.

But the Justice Department disagreed. And in an escalation last week, department prosecutors told DC District Chief Judge Beryl Howell, who oversees federal grand jury proceedings there, that the searches weren’t satisfactory. The contempt proceedings before Howell are under seal.

Good. Hopefully he goes to jail for this too, as a little appetizer.

But that excerpt is interesting - does it mean the DoJ thinks that there are yet more documents out there?

It probably means that there are classified documents that were in Trump's custody in the White House per inventory lists or logs or whatever, which are still missing. This could all be resolved if Trump would just fess up that he destroyed those documents, or handed them over to Putin, or whatever.

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

Update: no

https://twitter.com/hugolowell/status/1601318497073569792?s=20&t=fBeUf8ktWkQ...

[emailking]

Trump says everything should be returned. 🙄

Under the Presidential Records Act and the very well established Clinton Socks Case, the raid of Mar-a-Lago by the FBI, and the taking of documents and many other items, was ILLEGAL. Everything should be returned, at once!

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

Trump says everything should be returned. 🙄

Under the Presidential Records Act and the very well established Clinton Socks Case, the raid of Mar-a-Lago by the FBI, and the taking of documents and many other items, was ILLEGAL. Everything should be returned, at once!

Head of criminal organization demands immediate return of evidece and loot.

[GeorgiaModerate]

https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/08/politics/doj-trump-contempt-classified-documents/index.html

The Justice Department is asking a federal judge to hold Donald Trump in contempt of court for failing to comply with a subpoena issued this summer ordering the former president to turn over records marked classified, two sources familiar with the matter told CNN.

The development comes after Trump’s legal team said it conducted searches at four locations just before Thanksgiving, finding two documents with classified markings at a storage facility in Florida. The Trump team turned over those two documents to the FBI and announced to a federal judge in Washington, DC, that they believed Trump was now in compliance with a 6-month-old subpoena.

But the Justice Department disagreed. And in an escalation last week, department prosecutors told DC District Chief Judge Beryl Howell, who oversees federal grand jury proceedings there, that the searches weren’t satisfactory. The contempt proceedings before Howell are under seal.

Good. Hopefully he goes to jail for this too, as a little appetizer.

But that excerpt is interesting - does it mean the DoJ thinks that there are yet more documents out there?

It probably means that there are classified documents that were in Trump's custody in the White House per inventory lists or logs or whatever, which are still missing. This could all be resolved if Trump would just fess up that he destroyed those documents, or handed them over to Putin, or whatever.

The wording in this other CNN article is very specific:

Trump attorneys had received word in early November from Justice officials who said they believed the former president still had documents in his possession and asking his legal team to ensure that was not the case.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/09/politics/justice-department-trump-classified-documents/index.html

That indicates they believe the documents aren't just missing, but that Trump actually has them (or had them in early November).

[Torie]

https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/08/politics/doj-trump-contempt-classified-documents/index.html

The Justice Department is asking a federal judge to hold Donald Trump in contempt of court for failing to comply with a subpoena issued this summer ordering the former president to turn over records marked classified, two sources familiar with the matter told CNN.

The development comes after Trump’s legal team said it conducted searches at four locations just before Thanksgiving, finding two documents with classified markings at a storage facility in Florida. The Trump team turned over those two documents to the FBI and announced to a federal judge in Washington, DC, that they believed Trump was now in compliance with a 6-month-old subpoena.

But the Justice Department disagreed. And in an escalation last week, department prosecutors told DC District Chief Judge Beryl Howell, who oversees federal grand jury proceedings there, that the searches weren’t satisfactory. The contempt proceedings before Howell are under seal.

Good. Hopefully he goes to jail for this too, as a little appetizer.

But that excerpt is interesting - does it mean the DoJ thinks that there are yet more documents out there?

It probably means that there are classified documents that were in Trump's custody in the White House per inventory lists or logs or whatever, which are still missing. This could all be resolved if Trump would just fess up that he destroyed those documents, or handed them over to Putin, or whatever.

The wording in this other CNN article is very specific:

Trump attorneys had received word in early November from Justice officials who said they believed the former president still had documents in his possession and asking his legal team to ensure that was not the case.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/09/politics/justice-department-trump-classified-documents/index.html

That indicates they believe the documents aren't just missing, but that Trump actually has them (or had them in early November).

It depends on what is the basis of the belief. Whatever the basis, it's under seal, and thus we can both speculate. Who do you think fingered Trump on this?

[ProudModerate2]

https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/08/politics/doj-trump-contempt-classified-documents/index.html

The Justice Department is asking a federal judge to hold Donald Trump in contempt of court for failing to comply with a subpoena issued this summer ordering the former president to turn over records marked classified, two sources familiar with the matter told CNN.

The development comes after Trump’s legal team said it conducted searches at four locations just before Thanksgiving, finding two documents with classified markings at a storage facility in Florida. The Trump team turned over those two documents to the FBI and announced to a federal judge in Washington, DC, that they believed Trump was now in compliance with a 6-month-old subpoena.

But the Justice Department disagreed. And in an escalation last week, department prosecutors told DC District Chief Judge Beryl Howell, who oversees federal grand jury proceedings there, that the searches weren’t satisfactory. The contempt proceedings before Howell are under seal.

Good. Hopefully he goes to jail for this too, as a little appetizer.
But that excerpt is interesting - does it mean the DoJ thinks that there are yet more documents out there?

It probably means that there are classified documents that were in Trump's custody in the White House per inventory lists or logs or whatever, which are still missing. This could all be resolved if Trump would just fess up that he destroyed those documents, or handed them over to Putin, or whatever.

I agree that there must have been someone responsible for logs (inventory lists) that clearly say that certain documents went directly to donald trump (into the Oval Office), and did not come back-out.
I can not imagine that there were no (very strong) internal controls in place, to protect these vital and very secretive documents that our federal government is responsible for. Tracking were every single document is/was (who last possessed, or someone higher-up who demanded to keep it) must be recorded.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/08/politics/doj-trump-contempt-classified-documents/index.html

The Justice Department is asking a federal judge to hold Donald Trump in contempt of court for failing to comply with a subpoena issued this summer ordering the former president to turn over records marked classified, two sources familiar with the matter told CNN.

The development comes after Trump’s legal team said it conducted searches at four locations just before Thanksgiving, finding two documents with classified markings at a storage facility in Florida. The Trump team turned over those two documents to the FBI and announced to a federal judge in Washington, DC, that they believed Trump was now in compliance with a 6-month-old subpoena.

But the Justice Department disagreed. And in an escalation last week, department prosecutors told DC District Chief Judge Beryl Howell, who oversees federal grand jury proceedings there, that the searches weren’t satisfactory. The contempt proceedings before Howell are under seal.

Good. Hopefully he goes to jail for this too, as a little appetizer.
But that excerpt is interesting - does it mean the DoJ thinks that there are yet more documents out there?

It probably means that there are classified documents that were in Trump's custody in the White House per inventory lists or logs or whatever, which are still missing. This could all be resolved if Trump would just fess up that he destroyed those documents, or handed them over to Putin, or whatever.

I agree that there must have been someone responsible for logs (inventory lists) that clearly say that certain documents went directly to donald trump (into the Oval Office), and did not come back-out.
I can not imagine that there were no (very strong) internal controls in place, to protect these vital and very secretive documents that our federal government is responsible for. Tracking were every single document is/was (who last possessed, or someone higher-up who demanded to keep it) must be recorded.

While there doubtless were such policies pre-Trump, would it really be surprising if the guy who tried (and failed) to flush official records down the toilet ignored them, the same way he ignored so many other laws?

[2016]

Former US Attorney on MTP
Trump to be charged within a month
https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/3770793-former-us-attorney-predicts-doj-on-a-path-to-charge-trump/

[GeorgiaModerate]

Former US Attorney on MTP
Trump to be charged within a month
https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/3770793-former-us-attorney-predicts-doj-on-a-path-to-charge-trump/

I would be kind of surprised if it happens that quickly considering the special counsel only recently came on board, but given that the investigation was already well advanced I guess it's possible.

[2016]

Former US Attorney on MTP
Trump to be charged within a month
https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/3770793-former-us-attorney-predicts-doj-on-a-path-to-charge-trump/

I would be kind of surprised if it happens that quickly considering the special counsel only recently came on board, but given that the investigation was already well advanced I guess it's possible.

A Trump indictment would see Florida Governor Ron DeSantis on a glide path to the GOP 2024 Presidential Nomination as he would instantly inherit almost all of the Trump Base Voters so I hope this happens.

[Ferguson97]

Former US Attorney on MTP
Trump to be charged within a month
https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/3770793-former-us-attorney-predicts-doj-on-a-path-to-charge-trump/

I would be kind of surprised if it happens that quickly considering the special counsel only recently came on board, but given that the investigation was already well advanced I guess it's possible.

A Trump indictment would see Florida Governor Ron DeSantis on a glide path to the GOP 2024 Presidential Nomination as he would instantly inherit almost all of the Trump Base Voters so I hope this happens.

Why do you believe that a Trump indictment would hurt him in the primary? Who would have an indictment as their final straw?

[GeorgiaModerate]

https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/1602315740488556546

Trump's lawyers continue their truly impressive losing streak in the courts.

[Sir Mohamed]

https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/1602315740488556546

Trump's lawyers continue their truly impressive losing streak in the courts.

So much losing, you'd almost get tired of losing.

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/1602315740488556546

Trump's lawyers continue their truly impressive losing streak in the courts.

Judge Cannon bought the head of the criminal Trump Organization 98 days.

Whether that ultimately counts as a win or a loss has yet to be determined.