Harvard & UNC affirmative action cases to be argued on Oct 31

[slothdem]

Affirmative action will lose because Harvard is guilty. Conservatives will cheer at first because there will be fewer black and hispanic students at their beloved Harvard, but before long they will recoil in horror as the student body's at America's most elite private schools begin to resemble that of UCLA.

[slothdem]

Affirmative action will lose because Harvard is guilty. Conservatives will cheer at first because there will be fewer black and hispanic students at their beloved Harvard, but before long they will recoil in horror as the student body's at America's most elite private schools begin to resemble that of UCLA.

Brother (or sister), what universe are you living in?

This universe? The angst conservatives feel toward Harvard isn't because they don't love Harvard - it's frustration that Harvard doesn't love them back. There's a reason why all of the Trump-Justice vetting reports had paragraphs that were like "President Trump was particularly impressed that Kavanaugh went to Yale for undergrad and law school." Ron DeSantis hates Harvard and Yale so much that he has degrees from both. Hawley, Cruz, Cotton..... today's young movement conservatives were all ivy tower educated, and their reactionary politics are bigly informed by being in the ideological minority on campus. There is no place in America as reactionary as any College Republicans student organization, outside a few white nationalist militia camps in the PNW.

[slothdem]

Affirmative action will lose because Harvard is guilty. Conservatives will cheer at first because there will be fewer black and hispanic students at their beloved Harvard, but before long they will recoil in horror as the student body's at America's most elite private schools begin to resemble that of UCLA.

If so, they are not true conservatives. Conservatives value individual liberties and equal opportunity, and are against identity politics of all sorts.

Are you upset that NBA's racial composition resembles Africa?

Conservatives do not value individual liberty or equal opportunity, the later of which is literally antithetical to conservatism. To the extent that conservatives do value individual liberty, it's very much in a "freedom of the master" construction.

Conservatism as a political movement began in France in 1790 under the premise that traditional hierarchies (such as hereditary nobility and the clergy) have existed for a very long time so there is probably a good reason for that and the hierarchy should not be changed. Identity - and in particular, the hierarchy of identified groups - is the foundation for all conservative politics.

While Ivy League schools are substantially meritocratic (the number of legacy and athlete admissions is far outweighed by the genuinely brilliant admits) they are also hierarchical in a way that is deeply conservative. The modern divide between these schools is entirely because very few students, professors, and school administrators vote Republican.