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« Reply #25 on: January 20, 2023, 06:54:20 AM »

As I said the Best Argument is that there is the universe and there are good and evil forces out there, the worst argument is that we come from nothing
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« Reply #26 on: January 22, 2023, 02:56:06 AM »

God is 'all knowing' is a common phrase across religion.

When an uneducated human populous pre-Roman-Persian times struggles to explain any Earthly phenomenon correctly, then religion is worthwhile because it is 'all knowing'.

That is, anything you don't understand is OK because God knows and protects against lightning, floods, geological phenomenon etc.

But in 2023, as we can now explain the Universe from the Super micro to the macro, we find that human beings have only been on the planet for 70,000 years out of 4.6Bn years.

So to have a God in human form exist before the creation of the Earth and heavens means that a human was around 5-6 Bn years ago but waited 99.99999999% of that time before placing Adam and Eve on the planet who subsequently bread intoba population who are hell bent on destroying the place.

As science develops, the role of religion as a social construct fades into obscurity.
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« Reply #27 on: January 22, 2023, 03:42:17 PM »
« Edited: January 22, 2023, 03:56:44 PM by Skill and Chance »

God is 'all knowing' is a common phrase across religion.

When an uneducated human populous pre-Roman-Persian times struggles to explain any Earthly phenomenon correctly, then religion is worthwhile because it is 'all knowing'.

That is, anything you don't understand is OK because God knows and protects against lightning, floods, geological phenomenon etc.

But in 2023, as we can now explain the Universe from the Super micro to the macro, we find that human beings have only been on the planet for 70,000 years out of 4.6Bn years.

So to have a God in human form exist before the creation of the Earth and heavens means that a human was around 5-6 Bn years ago but waited 99.99999999% of that time before placing Adam and Eve on the planet who subsequently bread intoba population who are hell bent on destroying the place.

As science develops, the role of religion as a social construct fades into obscurity.

This position was not common in ancient monotheistic religious teachings, and it has IMO done a huge disservice to the branches of Christianity and Islam who have adopted it over the past several hundred years.  Historically, these faiths were mobilizing against polytheistic religions that made every significant natural phenomenon explicitly divine and had their early base with the most educated part of the ancient population.  They were looking for moral law, not detailed explanations of why a particular weather or astronomical event occurred. 

 
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« Reply #28 on: January 23, 2023, 11:59:06 PM »

God is 'all knowing' is a common phrase across religion.

When an uneducated human populous pre-Roman-Persian times struggles to explain any Earthly phenomenon correctly, then religion is worthwhile because it is 'all knowing'.

That is, anything you don't understand is OK because God knows and protects against lightning, floods, geological phenomenon etc.

But in 2023, as we can now explain the Universe from the Super micro to the macro, we find that human beings have only been on the planet for 70,000 years out of 4.6Bn years.

So to have a God in human form exist before the creation of the Earth and heavens means that a human was around 5-6 Bn years ago but waited 99.99999999% of that time before placing Adam and Eve on the planet who subsequently bread intoba population who are hell bent on destroying the place.

As science develops, the role of religion as a social construct fades into obscurity.

As a practicing scientist I continue to see value in religion. Yes science can fill in the details of answers that were given by religion, but there are still things unknown, and to the best of modern science there are things that science cannot know. Religion can still provide answers in those cases.

My experience with science is that though it does an excellent job of filling in knowledge, it does a poor job at replacing the social constructs offered by religion. It can seek to better explain those constructs but an explanation is not the same as the social construct itself. There are other ways of creating social constructs, but science isn't one of them.
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« Reply #29 on: January 24, 2023, 09:38:42 AM »

I don't consider God and religion to be synonyms.
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