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« on: July 21, 2022, 01:05:44 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2022, 02:54:26 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2022, 03:17:22 PM »

What the heck? This is even possible? Of course not.
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« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2022, 03:37:37 AM »

whoa whoa whoa, don't forget about the 5 year old boys that get pregnant
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« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2022, 11:29:31 AM »

whoa whoa whoa, don't forget about the 5 year old boys that get pregnant
A boy can't get pregnant.
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« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2022, 12:52:46 PM »

whoa whoa whoa, don't forget about the 5 year old boys that get pregnant
A boy can't get pregnant.

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« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2022, 04:04:58 PM »

So apparently this thread, which is about a small girl who went through the traumatic experience of experiencing extremely early puberty, getting raped, and then having to go through childbirth, is the perfect place to complain about trans people? Glad to know we have our priorities straight. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2022, 07:51:04 PM »

whoa whoa whoa, don't forget about the 5 year old boys that get pregnant
A boy can't get pregnant.
Trans boys(boys who were born with xx chromosomes and female bits) exist. I'm not going to say "boys can get pregnant too" when other people say "girls" when talking about pregnant children, but explicitly claiming that boys/men can't get pregnant is something that very much should be corrected.
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« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2022, 07:53:37 PM »

So apparently this thread, which is about a small girl who went through the traumatic experience of experiencing extremely early puberty, getting raped, and then having to go through childbirth, is the perfect place to complain about trans people? Glad to know we have our priorities straight. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #9 on: July 22, 2022, 10:42:09 PM »

Some question if this story is true, but if the accounts are accurate, then by the time they discovered she was pregnant, the pregnancy was seven months along. They took the baby out by caesarean a month later.
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« Reply #10 on: July 23, 2022, 10:55:09 PM »

So apparently this thread, which is about a small girl who went through the traumatic experience of experiencing extremely early puberty, getting raped, and then having to go through childbirth, is the perfect place to complain about trans people? Glad to know we have our priorities straight. Roll Eyes

It's because the usual suspects want to avoid admitting that yes, they would support forcing a 5-year-old to give birth.
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« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2022, 01:08:09 PM »

No and anyone who does is extremely f@cking wrong.
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« Reply #12 on: July 25, 2022, 03:17:28 PM »

This is a silly thing to ask when >95% of abortions are elective procedures.  Less than 0.2% of all abortions are for cases of rape or incest.  Pointing out these cases as some "gotcha" to own pro-lifers is misrepresenting your own position.     

That being said, no.  Carrying a pregnancy to term is extremely dangerous for a young child.  The parents in cases like these should be able to consent to an abortion for their daughter and, in cases where they won't, a judge should step-in and order one.  I think that should generally be the rule for any girl younger than 13. 
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« Reply #13 on: August 04, 2022, 02:50:18 AM »

This is a silly thing to ask when >95% of abortions are elective procedures.  Less than 0.2% of all abortions are for cases of rape or incest.  Pointing out these cases as some "gotcha" to own pro-lifers is misrepresenting your own position.     

That being said, no.  Carrying a pregnancy to term is extremely dangerous for a young child.  The parents in cases like these should be able to consent to an abortion for their daughter and, in cases where they won't, a judge should step-in and order one.  I think that should generally be the rule for any girl younger than 13. 

No it's not a silly question. Plenty of pro choicers, including democratic politicans are asked whether they support statistically insignificant late term abortions, and any ridicule or contempt they recieve for being to cowardly to own up to an unpopular position is not in anyway a "gotcha", so I fail see the issue in holding pro lifers to the same standard.
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« Reply #14 on: August 04, 2022, 10:33:42 AM »

So apparently this thread, which is about a small girl who went through the traumatic experience of experiencing extremely early puberty, getting raped, and then having to go through childbirth, is the perfect place to complain about trans people? Glad to know we have our priorities straight. Roll Eyes

Sure, but this story is almost 90 years old. Tragedy + time = comedy.
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« Reply #15 on: August 04, 2022, 02:32:29 PM »

This is a silly thing to ask when >95% of abortions are elective procedures.  Less than 0.2% of all abortions are for cases of rape or incest.  Pointing out these cases as some "gotcha" to own pro-lifers is misrepresenting your own position.     

That being said, no.  Carrying a pregnancy to term is extremely dangerous for a young child.  The parents in cases like these should be able to consent to an abortion for their daughter and, in cases where they won't, a judge should step-in and order one.  I think that should generally be the rule for any girl younger than 13. 

No it's not a silly question. Plenty of pro choicers, including democratic politicans are asked whether they support statistically insignificant late term abortions, and any ridicule or contempt they recieve for being to cowardly to own up to an unpopular position is not in anyway a "gotcha", so I fail see the issue in holding pro lifers to the same standard.

Trying to make late-term abortions an issue is also a lame "gotcha", since it's a vanishingly small number of abortions that are performed at this stage (and never without reason.)  Both sides need to be more honest about what they're really advocating for. 
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« Reply #16 on: August 05, 2022, 12:29:41 AM »

So apparently this thread, which is about a small girl who went through the traumatic experience of experiencing extremely early puberty, getting raped, and then having to go through childbirth, is the perfect place to complain about trans people? Glad to know we have our priorities straight. Roll Eyes

It's because the usual suspects want to avoid admitting that yes, they would support forcing a 5-year-old to give birth.

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Stop with the excessive hyperbole.

Pretty sure dead0 is pro-choice. He certainly isn't a raging social conservative who wants to ban abortion, that much I know. Neither are Dule, Flyingmongoose, myself or most of the people who recommended dead0 and/or Reactionary's posts (a few - Reactionary himself and Deadprez, and to some extent probably Cody - are, but the others aren't).

I don't think ANY of us want 5 year olds to give birth.  And I think you know that fully well.
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« Reply #17 on: August 05, 2022, 08:23:38 AM »

I don't think ANY of us want 5 year olds to give birth.  And I think you know that fully well.

There are people here who want to force a 10-year-old to give birth. Why would 5 be any different?
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« Reply #18 on: August 17, 2022, 07:41:44 PM »

Least absurd strawman made by pro-choicer
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« Reply #19 on: August 17, 2022, 08:40:41 PM »

Least absurd strawman made by pro-choicer

it's not a strawman if there are people who actually believe it
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« Reply #20 on: August 17, 2022, 08:45:47 PM »
« Edited: August 17, 2022, 08:49:03 PM by Biden his time »

Least absurd strawman made by pro-choicer

it's not a strawman if there are people who actually believe it

Like 0.0001%?

Anyway five-year-olds can't get pregnant

This one scenario that the OP found is a medical oddity

On top of that, even without considering the age, nearly all people who are against abortion would support an abortion for this girl seeing as this would almost definitely threaten her life at the age of 5. And it's also probably rape too.

And then on top of that she's 5 years old! These radical anti abortion Twitter and forum users you find online who support 10 year olds being forced to carry to term are not what your average pro-life person is like. The media jumps on this stuff but it's actually super rare.

This is fully a strawman since you're trying to make it look like this is the type of stuff your average anti-abortion person is for.
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« Reply #21 on: August 18, 2022, 08:08:49 PM »

Even though, in some extremely rare cases, a five year old girl may be physically mature enough to become pregnant, that doesn't mean she's emotionally mature enough to make a decision on her own. So yes, an adult should make the decision for her.

Okay, so just to get this on the record: MarkD is OK with forcing a 5-year-old girl to give birth.

Not emotionally mature enough to make the decision, but emotionally mature enough to give birth.
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« Reply #22 on: August 18, 2022, 11:47:29 PM »

Even though, in some extremely rare cases, a five year old girl may be physically mature enough to become pregnant, that doesn't mean she's emotionally mature enough to make a decision on her own. So yes, an adult should make the decision for her.

Okay, so just to get this on the record: MarkD is OK with forcing a 5-year-old girl to give birth.

Not emotionally mature enough to make the decision, but emotionally mature enough to give birth.

I misunderstood this trollish question. Backing out of this ridiculous discussion.
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« Reply #23 on: September 25, 2022, 02:11:27 AM »

This is a silly thing to ask when >95% of abortions are elective procedures.  Less than 0.2% of all abortions are for cases of rape or incest.  Pointing out these cases as some "gotcha" to own pro-lifers is misrepresenting your own position.     

That being said, no.  Carrying a pregnancy to term is extremely dangerous for a young child.  The parents in cases like these should be able to consent to an abortion for their daughter and, in cases where they won't, a judge should step-in and order one.  I think that should generally be the rule for any girl younger than 13. 
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