The Gathering Storm, Redux - League of Nations

[Deep Dixieland Senator, Muad'dib (OSR MSR)]

The restoration of the Monarchy can only be a good thing for Germany, as it will provide much needed stability to the nation. In this light, the Kingdom of Rumania, votes Nay on the French Motion.

The Kingdom of Rumania, Abstains from the Soviet motion.

[Deep Dixieland Senator, Muad'dib (OSR MSR)]

The Kingdom of Rumania Abstains from the Polish motion.

[Deep Dixieland Senator, Muad'dib (OSR MSR)]

The Kingdom of Rumania Abstains from the membership votes

[Deep Dixieland Senator, Muad'dib (OSR MSR)]

The Kingdom of Rumania votes Nay on the Soviet motion.

I would like to quote the Soviet Foreign ministry:

The Turkish Straits, by right, ought to be controlled by the country they are named for.

Considering their support for Turkey regarding the Turkish straights, their motion is disingenuous at best if not outright hypocritical. The Kingdom of Rumania has come to terms with Bulgaria re-arming itself. We have also had no objection to Turkey regarding the Turkish Straights. If Turkey and Bulgaria are re-arming and reoccupying demilitarized zones. It's not unreasonable for the Germany to do the same.

[Deep Dixieland Senator, Muad'dib (OSR MSR)]

The Kingdom of Rumania, believe that the investigation in to the heinous assassination of Engelbert Dollfuss, should be left to Austrian authorities without foreign intervention. We therefore vote Nay on the Japanese proposal.

However despite having voted against the motion, the Kingdom of Rumania proposes that the League of Nations provide assistance to the Austrian investigations made into the assassination of Engelbert Dollfuss, when/if Austria request assistance from the League with their investigations.

This will mean that countries that have advanced and have officially sort:

That the independence of Austria will continue to inspire their common policy

That the governments will agree to coordinate to defend the sovereignty of Austria from foreign intrusion

That the independence of Austria is key to the stability and peace of central Europe

That Austria is a historic and independent nation with a unique and sovereign people

Is respected by the league.

If this league is to mean anything it should mean that the sovereignty of a nation is sacrosanct. This proposal will be inline with that and the designated purpose or international cooperation of the league.

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Formating is a freaking headache

[Deep Dixieland Senator, Muad'dib (OSR MSR)]

The Kingdom of Rumania has an interesting definition of hypocrisy, given that it did not invoke the notion of internal affairs when the League investigated the internal affairs of the Soviet Union. I am interested to hear their definition of the word hypocrisy.

First of all we would like to state to the Soviet ambassador that we don't believe that the Soviet Union was behind the heinous assassination of Dollfuss.

We have appreciated the aide that the Soviet Union has provided during the war we did not seek, agianst sanction from a supposed "non interventionist" as we honoured our alliance obligations to the Little Entente.

Considering that the Kingdom of Rumania was unable to vote on any matter during the session that the Soviet ambassador mentions. It seems disingenuous to say we are hypocritical about this matter now. Had we been available for that session we would have voted on the matter along side our friends in the Soviet Union, who did vote against that particular motion, therefore we would like the our friend, the Soviet Ambassador, to clarify his statement.

[Deep Dixieland Senator, Muad'dib (OSR MSR)]

It is unfortunate that within the very nature of war, civilian deaths are not always avoidable.

Could this lead to nations using human shields to score victim points in the League of Nations? Surly this would mean that the nations using its population as human shields would need to be condemned.

While all points are morally correct, we are not sure about the workablity of the first point considering the nature of war contains lies, propaganda and various other deceptions for advantage.

As such the Kingdom of Rumania will Abstain.

[Deep Dixieland Senator, Muad'dib (OSR MSR)]

The USSR VETOES the South African motion

The USSR is welcome to offer a homeland to the Jewish in its own territory. Secondly, the Levant should have its own right to determine over their future, that's not up to South Africa or League of Nations to decide.

Considering that our former good friends in the Soviet Union have decided that the Sovereign territory of the Kingdom of Rumania is something that is for their taking. We are not surprised that they believe that the Jew doesn't deserve their own homeland and should be subdued within the USSR.

[Deep Dixieland Senator, Muad'dib (OSR MSR)]

Given Romania's previous signing of the anti-comintern pact, the USSR doesn't consider the Romanian government exactly good friends.

Would the Soviet delegation like to cite where the Kingdom of Rumania is a signatory to this so called pact? It would seem if anything you have pushed a friendly/neutral power away and are encouraging people into a course of action one would not otherwise have been obliged to take.

Mikhail Tukhachevsky on the Polish invasion of Lithuania
The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics condemns the Polish invasion of Lithuania as a violation of the principles of international law and an act of aggression. We share the sorrow of the Lithuanian people who have been subjected to such a heavy trial.

Mikhail Tukhachevsky on the breach of Belgian neutrality
The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics condemns the German decision to violate Belgian neutrality once again. The Belgians didn't want to be part of any war, and their decision to remain neutral should have been respected. We regret the loss of many Belgian lives due to German agression.

USSR also invades a sovereign nation without provocation or just cause yet, decides it has a moral right to pontificate to the international community about the actions it has also taken. While fabricating its own propaganda to justify itself to the world. I'll repeat the premiers words to the Soviet delegation with some liberty in rewording.

The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics Kingdom of Rumania condemns the Polish Soviet invasion of Lithuania Rumania as a violation of the principles of international law and an act of aggression.We regret the loss of many Belgian lives due to German Soviet aggression.

A MOTION
To the League of Nations

The League of Nations resolves

To ENDORSE the creation of a Jewish Homeland in the Levant.

Prime Minister Jan Smuts

As outlined above it is clear that the Chinese motion should be one that all nations that value common sense and decency should vote in favour of. AYE

[Deep Dixieland Senator, Muad'dib (OSR MSR)]

Motion of the League of the Nation

To organize an international army going to be sent to help Romania and Poland repeal the invaders on their territory.

you literally invaded Lithuania.

The Soviet Union unilaterally invaded the Kingdom of Rumania without a casus belli. You also demanded we cede large swathes of territory and demand a change in government for a rump state puppet that remained.

[Deep Dixieland Senator, Muad'dib (OSR MSR)]

Motion of the League of the Nation

To organize an international army going to be sent to help Romania and Poland repeal the invaders on their territory.

you literally invaded Lithuania.

The Soviet Union unilaterally invaded the Kingdom of Rumania without a casus belli. You also demanded we cede large swathes of territory and demand a change in government for a rump state puppet that remained.

The Romanian King has literally failed to condemn the German attack on Buzau. An attack that caused more deaths than all of our war effort combined. I also refused to resort to gas attacks and similar ways of warfare, because unlike some others we adhere to the convention of warfare.

It has become increasingly care King Carol I is unfit to lead his country in this war effort and that Romanians are not correctly represented. King Carol I has ordered the execution of Romanian partisans, which is whose interests we've decided to represent. We will be looking forward to install a more people-focused regime and not an authoritarian German puppet.

The Romanians allowed for more deaths with rejecting our compromise. The war goal of USSR will be regime change. A different way of peace is sadly not possible, the Romanian king has increasingly made that clear.

Once again the Soviets are clearing showing a lack of knowledge of  the facts. They have just demonstrated yet again that they don't even know who or what they are talking about. We would like to ask the unofficial soviet delegation to explain how the Father Grand-Uncle of his Majesty, the late King Carol I of Rumania is relevant to the current war that their Red Rat Napoleon has set upon Europe and Asia. No mass execution of communists has ever happend prior to the unjustified attack on the Kingdom of Rumania. Any reprisals against communist by the COMMON PEOPLE of Rumania against communist hordes threatening civilization is entirely understandable considering the unprovoked invasion by this evil warmongering communist power. Why is a the unofficial soviet delegation even present here when the quite clearly unilaterally pulled out of the League? The ego, lies and deception of the Soviets seemingly knows no bounds.

The Soviets now even admit they wish regime change of a non aggressor nation. This has been their ambition since the first day of their illegal invasion. Your nation has no moral authority or leg to stand on. The Soviet union is runs by snakes and rats of the most vile order. The are clearly the greatest impediment to world peace. They are the enemies of truth, justice, and of God himself.


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LOL
We provided the soviet delegation with a chance for getting their facts straight and pointing out that Carol I is the Grand uncle of his majesty but it seems they can't even take advantage of a simple "gotcha" moment.

[Deep Dixieland Senator, Muad'dib (OSR MSR)]

Joseph Avenol, Secretary General:

Order! Order in the floor!

Article 1 of our Covenant establishes that the withdrawal of members is made effective after two years. It further notes that obligations still apply, but it does not list the right to vote.

This Chair regrets the trend of nations abandoning the League instead of working to keep it functional.

We submit a motion to settle this dispute, subject to majority voting, on whether nations that submit a notice of withdrawal can subsequently revoke it before the two years time has passed. Those in favor, please vote Aye. Those against, Nay.

Nay

NAY

[Deep Dixieland Senator, Muad'dib (OSR MSR)]

As part of the anti-comintern pact your nation is a threat to the stability and the safety of the Sovjets. I cannot allow a neighbour to have these views.

As our delegation has stated previously and i quote:

Given Romania's previous signing of the anti-comintern pact, the USSR doesn't consider the Romanian government exactly good friends.

Would the Soviet delegation like to cite where the Kingdom of Rumania is a signatory to this so called pact? It would seem if anything you have pushed a friendly/neutral power away and are encouraging people into a course of action one would not otherwise have been obliged to take.

Mikhail Tukhachevsky on the Polish invasion of Lithuania
The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics condemns the Polish invasion of Lithuania as a violation of the principles of international law and an act of aggression. We share the sorrow of the Lithuanian people who have been subjected to such a heavy trial.

Mikhail Tukhachevsky on the breach of Belgian neutrality
The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics condemns the German decision to violate Belgian neutrality once again. The Belgians didn't want to be part of any war, and their decision to remain neutral should have been respected. We regret the loss of many Belgian lives due to German agression.

USSR also invades a sovereign nation without provocation or just cause yet, decides it has a moral right to pontificate to the international community about the actions it has also taken. While fabricating its own propaganda to justify itself to the world. I'll repeat the premiers words to the Soviet delegation with some liberty in rewording.

The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics Kingdom of Rumania condemns the Polish Soviet invasion of Lithuania Rumania as a violation of the principles of international law and an act of aggression.We regret the loss of many Belgian lives due to German Soviet aggression.

Considering this and your delegations previous inability to even get the current King of the Kingdom of Rumania's name correct. Your "Intelligence Services" are demonstrably of no factual value to either your premier or the League. as we stated previously, the Soviet Union is runs by snakes and rats of the most vile order. The are clearly the greatest impediment to world peace. They are the enemies of truth, justice, and of God himself.

[Deep Dixieland Senator, Muad'dib (OSR MSR)]

The USSR rejoins and vetoes.

You can’t rejoin without a two-thirds vote in favor of letting you do so

Let's say the process of leaving wasn't finished in 20 minutes. Brexit took years.

What is this Brexit of which you speak? Is it a breakfast ceral?

[Deep Dixieland Senator, Muad'dib (OSR MSR)]

Motion of the League of the Nation

To organize an international army going to be sent to help Romania and Poland repeal the invaders on their territory.

Le République Française votes Aye on the Polish motion.

[Deep Dixieland Senator, Muad'dib (OSR MSR)]

Le République Française, proposes that Mikhail Tukhachevsky be condemned as a tyrant and war criminal.


Edit: Strike-through added
I hope that the original post helped in part the continuation of the Gathering Storm.

[Deep Dixieland Senator, Muad'dib (OSR MSR)]

Le République Française, proposes that Mikhail Tukhachevsky be condemned as a tyrant and war criminal.

Sorry but from a roleplaying perspective, this makes no sense.

If you were still Romania yes, but you are playing France. I was buddies with France for most of the time.

This just feels like a sour grapes kind of thing, esp. given you bump a thread 2 months after the game was put on hold.

[OOC] I don't see anything wrong with this from an RP perspective. You got on well with the previous government which has been swept away. The current French government is full of anti-communists. Plus the treaty that secured peace with Germany said neither side were at fault.

I posted the motion to see if people are still watching this thread and, yes, I admit there is a little bit of trolling here too. But hey Mikhail Tukhachevsky is not you, he's your former character. I'm sorry to upset you.[/OOC]