Biden's single biggest mistake in the 2020 campaign
dw93:
Looking back at it, it's easy to say he didn't campaign in person enough but honestly I think campaigning in person too much would've undercut their message on COVID and its severity. I can see the attacks from the GOP being along the lines of "here they are telling you to stay home and distance while there out campaigning." Granted campaigning in person more may've very well helped, but it could've also hurt for the reason above.
As for the riots, while they initially hurt Trump more, they hurt Biden, and especially the Democratic Party down ticket more by election day. While Biden came out against "Defund the Police," I don't think the campaign did enough to distance him from the fringes on that issue.
As for the debates, while I by no means think Trump won them, especially the first debate where he acted like a ragging lunatic, Biden didn't win them either as the Biden that came off as a steady statesmen against Sarah Palin in 2008 and the Biden that cleaned Paul Ryan's clock in 2012 clearly wasn't at the three Presidential debates. The only debate I can say with confidence went well for the Democrats was, ironically, the VP debate, as Harris whooped Pence, something Tim Kaine failed to do in 2016. Granted the Presidential debates were worse for Trump than they were for Biden, they didn't help Biden either.
With the end result, with hindsight, Florida was never gonna be an easy win as that was one of the key states that actually trended Trump's way. I think they shouldn't have put much money into IA or OH, outside of House races, at all given Trump's 9 and 8 point wins in those states in 2016. That money would've been much better spent in North Carolina. Spending money in the KY and TX Senate races was also a dumb move, as putting those resources into NH and NC might've made for victories in those senate races, thus Biden's agenda would've passed.
Vice President Christian Man:
Quote from: #PACK THE COURTS on July 17, 2022, 04:39:29 PM
Picking Kamala Harris as Vice President. Resulted in about 10 million voters voting for Trump who otherwise would have stayed home. Cost him NC, FL, TX and ME-02; and cost Senate Dems NC, ME, and IA. Cost US House Dems 32 seats.
This seems like an exaggeration as there's almost no way Biden would've won Texas or ME-2 no matter which VP he chose, with the possible exception if he chose Jared Golden for the later but that would've cost him in other states. I think Val Demings would've been the best VP Biden could find, especially contrasting with Kamala'a rich lawyer vibe. She would've had all of Kamala's strengths and her relatively moderate profile would've likely flipped North Carolina and at the least put him within a % of flipping back Florida.
goin bezerk:
In terms of long term damage to the Democrats, ignoring Hispanics.
Sir Mohamed:
Quote from: Starry Eyed Jagaloon on July 17, 2022, 05:10:55 PM
Quote from: #PACK THE COURTS on July 17, 2022, 04:39:29 PM
Picking Kamala Harris as Vice President. Resulted in about 10 million voters voting for Trump who otherwise would have stayed home. Cost him NC, FL, TX and ME-02; and cost Senate Dems NC, ME, and IA. Cost US House Dems 32 seats.
I, personally, think it's unlikely that Biden would have beat Trump by 17 million votes with a different VP.
Yup; I dunno where that 32 number is coming from either. Dems lost 13 seats in 2020.
Interlocutor is just not there yet:
Quote from: goin bezerk on July 18, 2022, 05:39:16 PM
In terms of long term damage to the Democrats, ignoring Hispanics.
Dems in 2020:
'Hispanics don't matter at all this election. They need to stop whining, know their place, take one for the team and maybe we'll throw them a bone in 2024 or 2028'
Dems after Hispanics trended rightwards and may continue to trend rightwards in 2022: Shocked Pikachu face
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