Which of these Western-state dummymanders is worse?
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« on: October 16, 2022, 07:57:08 PM »
Gotta go with Nevada myself.
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« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2022, 08:03:43 PM »
Before the elections, I'm going to say NV. NM will probably still keep the 2-1 split in an R environment, which defeats the purpose of the gerrymander but NV could conceivably be 4-0R.
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« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2022, 08:07:42 PM »
At face value, Oregon's gerrymander is pretty solid, it just seems like Dems may be having a terrible year in Oregon. A Biden + 14 left-shifting seat in any remotely normal circumstances would not be competitive and even a 4D-2R delegation in an R leaning year is fine.

New Mexico's gerrymander is hard because no matter what the best you could do would be to perfectly balance all 3 seats in terms of partisanship which may violate VRA.

Nevada Dems really took a gamble and it'll depend upon how Las Vegas continues to shift over the course of a decade.
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« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2022, 08:54:50 PM »
Objectively Nevada. NM was not smart but it was not terrible like NV. Oregon’s gerrymander is solid, its just a very bad year for Ds, ESPECIALLY in Oregon.
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« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2022, 08:59:37 PM »
Nevada is just ridiculous. It's not hard to drag one of those districts up to Reno and make them all safer.
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« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2022, 09:19:53 PM »
Quote from: Ad Astra on October 16, 2022, 08:59:37 PM
Nevada is just ridiculous. It's not hard to drag one of those districts up to Reno and make them all safer.
The votes for that don't exist in the state legislature. But they easily could have made 1 competitive Vegas district and two Titanium D districts. Instead they made 3 competitive districts, and you can easily end up with a 4R-0D delegation.
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« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2022, 09:56:40 PM »
https://davesredistricting.org/maps#viewmap::7e64dbfa-5090-491d-998a-95283a1cc106

The Dems could have done this
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« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2022, 10:05:14 PM »
Nevada is just bizarre on so many levels. Ordinarily one of the most common causes for redistricting mistakes (from a partisan topline perspective) come from longtime incumbents making unreasonable demands that hurt the party overall. A state party actively screwing over their own decade-long incumbent is kind of ridiculous.
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« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2022, 10:16:47 PM »
The word "dummymander" has been reduced to meaning absolutely nothing now, I guess, considering it's even being used before any election has even happened.

Regardless, I think Nevada's map is the strangest from a strategic, incumbent-satisfaction, and minority/community interest viewpoint. Could still hold solid for Democrats, though, considering the absolute horror show that were Republican primaries in 2022.
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« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2022, 10:53:36 PM »
Doesn't have to be ugly either. https://davesredistricting.org/join/af0e254f-726f-4b52-98d5-eae92b327264
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« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2022, 11:17:53 PM »

woah

Never even occurred to me that that would be possible. It makes perfect sense now that I actually pay attention to the county populations though, all of them in your first district are tiny except Elko.
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« Reply #11 on: October 17, 2022, 12:05:45 AM »
No real evidence yet any of these are dummymanders.
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