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Fuzzy Bear
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« on: July 03, 2022, 12:41:08 PM »


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"There's so much misinformation, so many myths about abortion. Abortion will lead to substance abuse, depression, suicidal thoughts; abortion is bad for your health; every woman is going to regret it," said social psychologist Brenda Major, a distinguished professor emeritus in the department of psychological and brain sciences at the University of California, Santa Barbara.

In reality, decades of research has shown "the vast majority of women feel they made the right choice, and they don't experience regret," said Major, who led a 2008 American Psychological Association task force exploring the science on abortion and mental health.

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"Abortion does not cause depression, it does not cause suicide (or) suicidal ideation. It does not cause substance use. It does not cause anxiety disorders," said Steinberg, who has studied the mental health impact of abortion for years.
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Yet this belief that abortion harms women's mental and physical health has been used to justify "waiting period laws, two-trip requirements (in which women have to come back twice) and telling women inaccurate information around medication abortion," Steinberg said.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/02/health/abortion-myths-mental-health-wellness/index.html

None of this has any bearing on why those of us who truly care about unborn human life.
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« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2022, 05:19:26 PM »


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"There's so much misinformation, so many myths about abortion. Abortion will lead to substance abuse, depression, suicidal thoughts; abortion is bad for your health; every woman is going to regret it," said social psychologist Brenda Major, a distinguished professor emeritus in the department of psychological and brain sciences at the University of California, Santa Barbara.

In reality, decades of research has shown "the vast majority of women feel they made the right choice, and they don't experience regret," said Major, who led a 2008 American Psychological Association task force exploring the science on abortion and mental health.

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"Abortion does not cause depression, it does not cause suicide (or) suicidal ideation. It does not cause substance use. It does not cause anxiety disorders," said Steinberg, who has studied the mental health impact of abortion for years.
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Yet this belief that abortion harms women's mental and physical health has been used to justify "waiting period laws, two-trip requirements (in which women have to come back twice) and telling women inaccurate information around medication abortion," Steinberg said.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/02/health/abortion-myths-mental-health-wellness/index.html

None of this has any bearing on why those of us who truly care about unborn human life.

You've never said a word about all the fertilized embryos in IVF labs that will get thawed out and thrown in the trash once their owners have already had the child they want.

You've never said a word about all the "unborn human lives" that "die" from spontaneous abortion or miscarriage.

You've never expressed any concern about born human life dying of COVID-19 or gun violence or lack of access to healthcare.

You just want to force your religious beliefs onto everyone else.

Once again, you're either lying or lazy.

I've advocated for single payer healthcare for all on these pages, and while I don't see how it will get done, I do support that (so long as no taxpayer funds go to paying for abortion).

I've expressed care for victims of gun violence, but sympathy for those victims is limit to those killed by a white shooter (Buffalo) or one where the case for gun control can be made (Uvalde).  Threads about gun violence in Chicago (for example) where the shooters are disproportionately African-American males (shooting disproportionately other African-American males) is met with silence, and questions of why are we start a thread about this?  THAT gun violence doesn't make the case you want; indeed, given the gun control laws in the places where this sort of violence is widespread, it works AGAINST the desired narrative.  The victims in this violence that this forum ignores are just as dead as the victims in Uvalde, Buffalo, Parkland, and those places where the desired narrative can be advanced.

But, of course, you're derailing the topic.  You - IndyTexas - are derailing.  I'm talking about the deaths of unborn children from Abortion On Demand.  That's the taking of human life, and if you want me to reexamine that issue, you can start by telling me at what point HUMAN Life begins, and at what point it ought to be protected in law, and why you believe that.

If a fetus is a human life from conception on, it doesn't matter what I think about the issues of healthcare, child care, etc.  Those are separate issues.  They should be addressed, of course, and I have always been supportive of an adequate safety net.  But even if I were not, that would not matter.  LIFE is a fundamental right for a person, and if you are advocating it being OK to take an unborn life at a stage of development you were once at, just for craps and giggles (because abortion is, after all, "on demand"), you ought to be able to state where human life actually begins.  If you can't say where, then you could give me a reason why we should not assume that it begins a second, minute, hour, day, week, month, etc. earlier than you say it begins.  THAT would be the proper argument. 

Lots of people seem to wish to make the argument of how many ways folks like myself are not really "Pro-Life".  I've answered that question, but now, I'm going to say that everyone is full of crap on that issue, because my position (and the position of pro-lifers as a whole) on the issues of child care, daycare, healthcare for all, the death penalty, etc. are irrelevant to this argument because no answer we would give would move their needle at all.  They're for abortion on demand, period, and they're not going to trade abortion for M4A, an end to school vouchers, and codifying all the Trans Rights issues they espouse into one monster omnibus package.  So let's be real here; this "Pro-Life In The Womb, Only" chatter by the Left here is insincere in terms of actually moving those issues through compromise.  So I'm fine with my position.  And while it's not MY position, I find it more morally defensible to oppose universal healthcare and support the Death Penalty while being pro-life than the opposite, because THAT position is one that protects INNOCENT Human Life.
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« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2022, 05:22:19 PM »

Of all the different strains of argument I've heard put forward by my fellow pro-lifers, I almost never hear this one. Whether or not any of these things is true is wholly irrelevant to the crux of this debate - the fact that than an innocent life is being taken. Regarding abortion's legality, it doesn't really matter whether the decision shatters the woman later in life or if she decides to celebrate it; all that matters and all that ever should matter is that life in the womb.

Precisely this.

Note that none of the opposition to this position will take a stand as to where unborn life becomes "Innocent Human Life".
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