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« Reply #25 on: June 30, 2022, 07:37:11 PM »

Non-violent protestors should not be prosecuted

No one disputes that, genius, but the point is this guy was anything but non-violent.
But like 90% of the people who stormed the Capitol were not violent, they simply walked into a building.

Shh. Can’t say that. It was worse than 9/11.
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« Reply #26 on: June 30, 2022, 07:49:19 PM »

Non-violent protestors should not be prosecuted

No one disputes that, genius, but the point is this guy was anything but non-violent.
But like 90% of the people who stormed the Capitol were not violent, they simply walked into a building.

They still committed a crime.
Shouldn't be prosecuted though. We don't see the FBI going after jaywalkers.
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« Reply #27 on: July 01, 2022, 12:04:27 AM »

Non-violent protestors should not be prosecuted

No one disputes that, genius, but the point is this guy was anything but non-violent.
But like 90% of the people who stormed the Capitol were not violent, they simply walked into a building.

They still committed a crime.
Shouldn't be prosecuted though. We don't see the FBI going after jaywalkers.

It's not jaywalking. It's more like trespassing, and they should at the very least be fined.
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« Reply #28 on: July 01, 2022, 03:04:08 AM »

Non-violent protestors should not be prosecuted

No one disputes that, genius, but the point is this guy was anything but non-violent.
But like 90% of the people who stormed the Capitol were not violent, they simply walked into a building.

They still committed a crime.
Shouldn't be prosecuted though. We don't see the FBI going after jaywalkers.

Ignorant posts on Parade. Why on Earth do I insist on reading the post of people I've put on ignore for this very reason?
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« Reply #29 on: July 01, 2022, 09:50:55 AM »

Republicans are soft on crime.
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« Reply #30 on: July 01, 2022, 08:54:36 PM »
« Edited: July 01, 2022, 08:59:13 PM by Obama-Biden Democrat »

I actually appreciate stories like this because it shines a light on the fact that anybody is capable of being an unstable lunatic. Trump cultists are not actually always "blue collar." That should actually make us even more terrified when they are in occupations like this.

There are lots of MAGA cultists who are engineers, real estate agents and small business owners. It's not just a blue collar movement.
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« Reply #31 on: July 01, 2022, 09:33:05 PM »

The hardcore nucleus of both parties (ultraconservatives and staunch progressives) usually tend to be middle-class or upper middle class people (or are supported by MC or UMC people) who have the time to actually care so deeply about politics. This is nothing new.
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« Reply #32 on: July 01, 2022, 09:58:56 PM »

The hardcore nucleus of both parties (ultraconservatives and staunch progressives) usually tend to be middle-class or upper middle class people (or are supported by MC or UMC people) who have the time to actually care so deeply about politics. This is nothing new.

One way to visualize this, based on data from my county: here's the distribution of partisans by the value of their parcel:

PartyFirst 25%Second 25%Third 25%Top 25%
D42%19%20%20%
R38%20%20%22%
I48%18%17%17%

Dems skew more to the low end, GOP to the higher end. Indies skew very downscale.

Compare this to the distribution of donors:

PartyFirst 25%Second 25%Third 25%Top 25%
D29%20%25%27%
R34%18%20%27%

Both parties cores draw from a wealthier portion of the electorate, but Dems do much better with UMC donors relative to their totals while the GOP does better with downscale donors relative to the Democrats.
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« Reply #33 on: July 02, 2022, 09:01:54 AM »

Non-violent protestors should not be prosecuted

No one disputes that, genius, but the point is this guy was anything but non-violent.
But like 90% of the people who stormed the Capitol were not violent, they simply walked into a building.

They still committed a crime.
Shouldn't be prosecuted though. We don't see the FBI going after jaywalkers.

Would you say the same if it was a leftist mob that attacked the capitol? Conservatives better be careful what they wish for. The older generations are full of conservatives who are dying off and there are more and more leftists coming up who are disdainful of the US constitution. The next time there is a attack on the capitol, it may not be a bunch of fascists, but a bunch of leftists. Weakness shown during the 2020 riots led to the weakness shown during the January 6th insurrection. Hopefully this doesn't lead to weakness being shown during the next attack because we may not have a country afterwards.
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« Reply #34 on: July 02, 2022, 09:12:52 AM »

Non-violent protestors should not be prosecuted

No one disputes that, genius, but the point is this guy was anything but non-violent.
But like 90% of the people who stormed the Capitol were not violent, they simply walked into a building.

They still committed a crime.
Shouldn't be prosecuted though. We don't see the FBI going after jaywalkers.

Would you say the same if it was a leftist mob that attacked the capitol? Conservatives better be careful what they wish for. The older generations are full of conservatives who are dying off and there are more and more leftists coming up who are disdainful of the US constitution. The next time there is a attack on the capitol, it may not be a bunch of fascists, but a bunch of leftists. Weakness shown during the 2020 riots led to the weakness shown during the January 6th insurrection. Hopefully this doesn't lead to weakness being shown during the next attack because we may not have a country afterwards.
Destroying shops is bad because it actually has victims.
Walking around a federal building is not bad cause there's no victims (obviously the people who assault cops are bad tho).
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« Reply #35 on: July 02, 2022, 09:20:16 AM »

Non-violent protestors should not be prosecuted

No one disputes that, genius, but the point is this guy was anything but non-violent.
But like 90% of the people who stormed the Capitol were not violent, they simply walked into a building.

They still committed a crime.
Shouldn't be prosecuted though. We don't see the FBI going after jaywalkers.

Would you say the same if it was a leftist mob that attacked the capitol? Conservatives better be careful what they wish for. The older generations are full of conservatives who are dying off and there are more and more leftists coming up who are disdainful of the US constitution. The next time there is a attack on the capitol, it may not be a bunch of fascists, but a bunch of leftists. Weakness shown during the 2020 riots led to the weakness shown during the January 6th insurrection. Hopefully this doesn't lead to weakness being shown during the next attack because we may not have a country afterwards.
Destroying shops is bad because it actually has victims.
Walking around a federal building is not bad cause there's no victims (obviously the people who assault cops are bad tho).

They were trying to hang Mike Pence and change the outcome of an election. That is far worse than destroying shops, though both should be cracked down on severely. We live in dangerous times and we can't allow this type of behavior, whether it is from the left or the right.
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« Reply #36 on: July 02, 2022, 09:21:46 AM »

Non-violent protestors should not be prosecuted

No one disputes that, genius, but the point is this guy was anything but non-violent.
But like 90% of the people who stormed the Capitol were not violent, they simply walked into a building.

They still committed a crime.
Shouldn't be prosecuted though. We don't see the FBI going after jaywalkers.

Would you say the same if it was a leftist mob that attacked the capitol? Conservatives better be careful what they wish for. The older generations are full of conservatives who are dying off and there are more and more leftists coming up who are disdainful of the US constitution. The next time there is a attack on the capitol, it may not be a bunch of fascists, but a bunch of leftists. Weakness shown during the 2020 riots led to the weakness shown during the January 6th insurrection. Hopefully this doesn't lead to weakness being shown during the next attack because we may not have a country afterwards.
Destroying shops is bad because it actually has victims.
Walking around a federal building is not bad cause there's no victims (obviously the people who assault cops are bad tho).

They were trying to hang Mike Pence and change the outcome of an election. That is far worse than destroying shops, though both should be cracked down on severely. We live in dangerous times and we can't allow this type of behavior, whether it is from the left or the right.
If someone actually committed violence then prosecute them. Simply chanting something or having a view that literally most Republicans have is protected by the 1st amendment.
The only crime most capitol "rioters" did is walk around in a building.
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« Reply #37 on: July 02, 2022, 07:48:47 PM »

Non-violent protestors should not be prosecuted

No one disputes that, genius, but the point is this guy was anything but non-violent.
But like 90% of the people who stormed the Capitol were not violent, they simply walked into a building.

They still committed a crime.
Shouldn't be prosecuted though. We don't see the FBI going after jaywalkers.

Would you say the same if it was a leftist mob that attacked the capitol? Conservatives better be careful what they wish for. The older generations are full of conservatives who are dying off and there are more and more leftists coming up who are disdainful of the US constitution. The next time there is a attack on the capitol, it may not be a bunch of fascists, but a bunch of leftists. Weakness shown during the 2020 riots led to the weakness shown during the January 6th insurrection. Hopefully this doesn't lead to weakness being shown during the next attack because we may not have a country afterwards.
Destroying shops is bad because it actually has victims.
Walking around a federal building is not bad cause there's no victims (obviously the people who assault cops are bad tho).

They were trying to hang Mike Pence and change the outcome of an election. That is far worse than destroying shops, though both should be cracked down on severely. We live in dangerous times and we can't allow this type of behavior, whether it is from the left or the right.
If someone actually committed violence then prosecute them. Simply chanting something or having a view that literally most Republicans have is protected by the 1st amendment.
The only crime most capitol "rioters" did is walk around in a building.

And what view would that be, that Mike Pence should be lynched?

If someone breaks into the capitol threatening to kill politicians, they should be shot. It is really not that complicated.
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« Reply #38 on: July 02, 2022, 08:39:48 PM »

Non-violent protestors should not be prosecuted

No one disputes that, genius, but the point is this guy was anything but non-violent.
But like 90% of the people who stormed the Capitol were not violent, they simply walked into a building.

They still committed a crime.
Shouldn't be prosecuted though. We don't see the FBI going after jaywalkers.

Would you say the same if it was a leftist mob that attacked the capitol? Conservatives better be careful what they wish for. The older generations are full of conservatives who are dying off and there are more and more leftists coming up who are disdainful of the US constitution. The next time there is a attack on the capitol, it may not be a bunch of fascists, but a bunch of leftists. Weakness shown during the 2020 riots led to the weakness shown during the January 6th insurrection. Hopefully this doesn't lead to weakness being shown during the next attack because we may not have a country afterwards.
Destroying shops is bad because it actually has victims.
Walking around a federal building is not bad cause there's no victims (obviously the people who assault cops are bad tho).

They were trying to hang Mike Pence and change the outcome of an election. That is far worse than destroying shops, though both should be cracked down on severely. We live in dangerous times and we can't allow this type of behavior, whether it is from the left or the right.
If someone actually committed violence then prosecute them. Simply chanting something or having a view that literally most Republicans have is protected by the 1st amendment.
The only crime most capitol "rioters" did is walk around in a building.

Why do you support an attempted self-coup?
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« Reply #39 on: July 02, 2022, 08:41:54 PM »

Non-violent protestors should not be prosecuted

No one disputes that, genius, but the point is this guy was anything but non-violent.
But like 90% of the people who stormed the Capitol were not violent, they simply walked into a building.

They still committed a crime.
Shouldn't be prosecuted though. We don't see the FBI going after jaywalkers.

Would you say the same if it was a leftist mob that attacked the capitol? Conservatives better be careful what they wish for. The older generations are full of conservatives who are dying off and there are more and more leftists coming up who are disdainful of the US constitution. The next time there is a attack on the capitol, it may not be a bunch of fascists, but a bunch of leftists. Weakness shown during the 2020 riots led to the weakness shown during the January 6th insurrection. Hopefully this doesn't lead to weakness being shown during the next attack because we may not have a country afterwards.
Destroying shops is bad because it actually has victims.
Walking around a federal building is not bad cause there's no victims (obviously the people who assault cops are bad tho).

They were trying to hang Mike Pence and change the outcome of an election. That is far worse than destroying shops, though both should be cracked down on severely. We live in dangerous times and we can't allow this type of behavior, whether it is from the left or the right.
If someone actually committed violence then prosecute them. Simply chanting something or having a view that literally most Republicans have is protected by the 1st amendment.
The only crime most capitol "rioters" did is walk around in a building.
The First Amendment does not protect trespassing, which walking into the Capitol when it's closed to visitors as it was at the time is.
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