Some thoughts on recent BS narratives around abortion

[GP270watch]

The idea that winning every election for the next three decades is more viable than just expanding the goddamned court is peak pundit brain.

You only really have to keep winning elections until Thomas and Alito die.  Thomas is 74 and in poor health, Alito is 72.  Scalia died at 80.  Rehnquist died at 81.  Ginsburg lived all the way to 87.  The GOP would have had to do this, but they "lucked into" a situation where they got to nominate three justices in four years.  Usually you only get to appoint one or two every decade.

 They didn't luck into anything. They refused Obama's nomination in unprecedented fashion and then turned around and nominated/confirmed another justice in the last few months before a Presidential election.

[GeneralMacArthur]

The idea that winning every election for the next three decades is more viable than just expanding the goddamned court is peak pundit brain.

You only really have to keep winning elections until Thomas and Alito die.  Thomas is 74 and in poor health, Alito is 72.  Scalia died at 80.  Rehnquist died at 81.  Ginsburg lived all the way to 87.  The GOP would have had to do this, but they "lucked into" a situation where they got to nominate three justices in four years.  Usually you only get to appoint one or two every decade.

 They didn't luck into anything. They refused Obama's nomination in unprecedented fashion and then turned around and nominated/confirmed another justice in the last few months before a Presidential election.

Yes I'm aware, this is why I put "lucked into" in quotation marks.

[Person Man]

The idea that winning every election for the next three decades is more viable than just expanding the goddamned court is peak pundit brain.

You only really have to keep winning elections until Thomas and Alito die.  Thomas is 74 and in poor health, Alito is 72.  Scalia died at 80.  Rehnquist died at 81.  Ginsburg lived all the way to 87.  The GOP would have had to do this, but they "lucked into" a situation where they got to nominate three justices in four years.  Usually you only get to appoint one or two every decade.

 They didn't luck into anything. They refused Obama's nomination in unprecedented fashion and then turned around and nominated/confirmed another justice in the last few months before a Presidential election.

Yes I'm aware, this is why I put "lucked into" in quotation marks.

What would be funny is if Alito and Thomas died close to each other and there’s a D president and R congress and the president just appoints their replacements and because 5 Democrats are on the Court, they don’t provide a recourse. This follows the logic that you can end a law by breaking it.

[Buffalo Mayor Young Kim]

The idea that winning every election for the next three decades is more viable than just expanding the goddamned court is peak pundit brain.

You only really have to keep winning elections until Thomas and Alito die.  Thomas is 74 and in poor health, Alito is 72.  Scalia died at 80.  Rehnquist died at 81.  Ginsburg lived all the way to 87.  The GOP would have had to do this, but they "lucked into" a situation where they got to nominate three justices in four years.  Usually you only get to appoint one or two every decade.

And one or both could easily live into their 90s and if their health is failing they absolutely will retire under the next GOP administration.
So your solution control the Senate and Presidency for as long as it takes them to die, hope they do so at the right time, and if you don’t manage well we are ed for another generation. That’s a wish, not a plan.

Meanwhile we all get to live in the Lochner Era and with the reality that and any all things the government does are subject to veto based on the last thing Thomas heard in talk radio.

Plus I don’t know if you’ve been paying attention, but Alito and Co are going after Chevron and  reviving non-delegation and very aggressively undermining voting rights. We don’t have the 8-12 years it would take in a perfect world to wait them out if we want anything resembling a functioning state.

Yeah, Republicans might pack the court at some future date if we do something now, but that court will not be meaningfully different AND that requires them to win a trifecta that is quite a bit harder than just winning the Presidency once. Suggesting that we are just supposed to accept generational control of the courts (and realistically that’s what do nothing and wait for them to die is doing) by an extremist cabal because if we fix it that it could maybe revert back to exactly where we are now a couple decades is just dumb.

[darklordoftech]

Not only were Lieberman and Baucus pro-choice, they were to the left of Biden on abortion when all three of them were in the Senate together. Evan Bayh was pro-choice enough that Hillary was considering him as a running mate.

[Benjamin Frank]

The 'progressive' activists who are spreading these 'BS narratives' are the purists for whom the good is the enemy of the perfect and the reason why the Democrats don't consistently get 'their' voters out in the same way that Republicans do.  These 'progressives' are idiots.