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« on: June 27, 2022, 01:43:47 PM »
« edited: August 01, 2022, 02:54:08 PM by Spoiled »

https://ballot-access.org/2022/06/27/signers-of-north-carolina-green-petition-are-getting-multiple-text-messages-from-democratic-party-operatives/
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Yet, the State Board of Elections has apparently furnished the list to the Democratic Party group.
One text says, “If the Green Party is on the ballot in 2022 and 2024, it will take votes away from the Democrats, giving Republicans a huge advantage that will help them win North Carolina in 2022 and 2024.”

Some of the phone calls claim the Green Party itself is calling.


Democracy and voter choice isn’t prioritized by either party. Shameful given that in these competitive midterms third party support is often negligible and usually done by people who would not vote for either party. What are the democrats afraid of by allowing voters another option?
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« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2022, 02:14:04 PM »

The Green Party really is delusional
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« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2022, 02:15:33 PM »

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US Senate candidate to represent the people of North Carolina. Green Party.

Wow sounds like an unbiased individual to me.
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« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2022, 02:21:09 PM »

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US Senate candidate to represent the people of North Carolina. Green Party.

Wow sounds like an unbiased individual to me.
Various people have already gotten this message and from the tricks done these past few years, this isn’t exactly not in their alley to get the greens off the ballot.

I mean who else would announce this but the person most affected by this ratf•••ing
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« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2022, 02:35:21 PM »

VoTe DeMoCrAt To SaVe DeMoCrAcY!
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« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2022, 04:45:50 PM »

This isn't a "trick". They're flat out asking if the person wants to do that and can only take action with their permission.
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« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2022, 04:51:23 PM »


Unironically yes.
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« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2022, 04:54:50 PM »

This isn't a "trick". They're flat out asking if the person wants to do that and can only take action with their permission.
They’re pretending to be the Green Party while doing some of the calls, that’s excessive trickery.

I’ve seen how they’re working the Jan 6th coup and their track record on civil liberties, they aren’t protecting our system from Republican onslaught.
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« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2022, 05:01:28 PM »

Hopefully the Democrats keep up the good work
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« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2022, 05:01:38 PM »

Seems like we need to expand IRV everywhere to help mitigate the threat of spoiler candidates.
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« Reply #10 on: June 27, 2022, 05:08:36 PM »

This isn't a "trick". They're flat out asking if the person wants to do that and can only take action with their permission.
They’re pretending to be the Green Party while doing some of the calls, that’s excessive trickery.
Cite? And proof that this is illegal?
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« Reply #11 on: June 27, 2022, 05:51:06 PM »

This isn't a "trick". They're flat out asking if the person wants to do that and can only take action with their permission.
They’re pretending to be the Green Party while doing some of the calls, that’s excessive trickery.
Cite? And proof that this is illegal?
BAN and the numerous Hoh supporters getting calls. It ain’t illegal but still a ratf•••, don’t deny it.

Hopefully the Democrats keep up the good work
You want to set the precedent for Republicans to pull the same stunt and go through all sorts of tricks to get your preferred candidate off the ballot?
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« Reply #12 on: June 27, 2022, 06:04:12 PM »

This isn't a "trick". They're flat out asking if the person wants to do that and can only take action with their permission.
They’re pretending to be the Green Party while doing some of the calls, that’s excessive trickery.
Cite? And proof that this is illegal?
BAN and the numerous Hoh supporters getting calls. It ain’t illegal but still a ratf•••, don’t deny it.

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Hopefully the Democrats keep up the good work
You want to set the precedent for Republicans to pull the same stunt and go through all sorts of tricks to get your preferred candidate off the ballot?
They're welcome to try, but don't be shocked when it doesn't work.
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« Reply #13 on: June 27, 2022, 06:06:22 PM »

This isn't a "trick". They're flat out asking if the person wants to do that and can only take action with their permission.
They’re pretending to be the Green Party while doing some of the calls, that’s excessive trickery.
Cite? And proof that this is illegal?
BAN and the numerous Hoh supporters getting calls. It ain’t illegal but still a ratf•••, don’t deny it.

Hopefully the Democrats keep up the good work
You want to set the precedent for Republicans to pull the same stunt and go through all sorts of tricks to get your preferred candidate off the ballot?

Unlike Get Republicans Elected Every November party voters, I don’t waste my vote.  So no, I’m not worried about Republicans doing this
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« Reply #14 on: June 27, 2022, 08:26:32 PM »

You want to set the precedent for Republicans to pull the same stunt and go through all sorts of tricks to get your preferred candidate off the ballot?

Yes, the Republican Party is famous for caring about precedents and norms.
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« Reply #15 on: June 27, 2022, 08:31:21 PM »

You don’t need a candidate on the ballot to leave it blank. Which is identical to voting green.
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« Reply #16 on: June 27, 2022, 09:25:14 PM »

You don’t need a candidate on the ballot to leave it blank. Which is identical to voting green.
The analogy doesn’t work, this is tantamount to taking away abstaining from voting.
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« Reply #17 on: June 27, 2022, 09:54:54 PM »

This isn't a "trick". They're flat out asking if the person wants to do that and can only take action with their permission.

How kind of them! Because we were all taught in civics class that when you sign a petition, you should be prepared for some faceless political committee to just wipe your name from it if they don't agree with the petition. North Carolina Democrats are kind enough to ask you if they can wipe your name, because they just love democracy that much!
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« Reply #18 on: June 27, 2022, 09:55:41 PM »

This isn't a "trick". They're flat out asking if the person wants to do that and can only take action with their permission.

How kind of them! Because we were all taught in civics class that when you sign a petition, you should be prepared for some faceless political committee to just wipe your name from it if they don't agree with the petition. North Carolina Democrats are kind enough to ask you if they can wipe your name, because they just love democracy that much!
So when they ask don't say no and it won't happen. Where's the problem?
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« Reply #19 on: June 27, 2022, 10:08:25 PM »

This isn't a "trick". They're flat out asking if the person wants to do that and can only take action with their permission.

How kind of them! Because we were all taught in civics class that when you sign a petition, you should be prepared for some faceless political committee to just wipe your name from it if they don't agree with the petition. North Carolina Democrats are kind enough to ask you if they can wipe your name, because they just love democracy that much!
So when they ask don't say no and it won't happen. Where's the problem?

Nothing! Like I said, every time I sign a petition, I expect a faceless political committee to weigh in on whether I meant to sign what I signed. This group goes the extra mile and does the favor of asking me, "hey, your signature is on this, did you sign it, and did you mean to sign it?" As I always say, democracy is best when faceless political committees lend a helping hand and chaperone your participation, just to make sure everything's going all right!
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« Reply #20 on: June 27, 2022, 10:30:31 PM »

This isn't a "trick". They're flat out asking if the person wants to do that and can only take action with their permission.

How kind of them! Because we were all taught in civics class that when you sign a petition, you should be prepared for some faceless political committee to just wipe your name from it if they don't agree with the petition. North Carolina Democrats are kind enough to ask you if they can wipe your name, because they just love democracy that much!
So when they ask don't say no and it won't happen. Where's the problem?

Nothing! Like I said, every time I sign a petition, I expect a faceless political committee to weigh in on whether I meant to sign what I signed. This group goes the extra mile and does the favor of asking me, "hey, your signature is on this, did you sign it, and did you mean to sign it?" As I always say, democracy is best when faceless political committees lend a helping hand and chaperone your participation, just to make sure everything's going all right!

...so there’s no actual problem. Got it!
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« Reply #21 on: June 28, 2022, 10:03:10 AM »

I noticed that PSOL never really gets the response he wants in his Green Party threads.
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« Reply #22 on: June 28, 2022, 12:34:06 PM »

It may be legal, but I don't like it.  Unfortunately, it makes sense from the standpoint of wanting the Democrats to win, but I'd much prefer Democrats trying to defeat Greens by winning over their voters on policy.

I also have to wonder what people would say if this was the NRSC asking voters that had signed a petition to get a Democrat on a ballot if they really meant to sign the petition.
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« Reply #23 on: June 28, 2022, 04:06:36 PM »

I noticed that PSOL never really gets the response he wants in his Green Party threads.
These are actually the responses I expect, I make them to expose the hypocrisy for the few ready to listen and see reality and for this to be a painful reminder from the past several years when Democrats do get screwed over.
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« Reply #24 on: June 28, 2022, 11:34:08 PM »

This isn't a "trick". They're flat out asking if the person wants to do that and can only take action with their permission.
They’re pretending to be the Green Party while doing some of the calls, that’s excessive trickery.
Cite? And proof that this is illegal?
BAN and the numerous Hoh supporters getting calls. It ain’t illegal but still a ratf•••, don’t deny it.

Hopefully the Democrats keep up the good work
You want to set the precedent for Republicans to pull the same stunt and go through all sorts of tricks to get your preferred candidate off the ballot?

Unlike Get Republicans Elected Every November party voters, I don’t waste my vote.  So no, I’m not worried about Republicans doing this

And besides, the Republicans have attempted this in the past regarding libertarian candidates in places like Montana.
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