Should IUDs and other contraceptive methods be free in states where abortion is banned?

[Ferguson97]

Yes, and they should also be free in states where abortion is legal.

[Ferguson97]

No, because none of those are a need. If you don't want to become pregnant, it should not be the government's responsibility to help you pay for that, especially when free and low cost options already exist currently. 

The government should, however, do more to help families that will be created out of abortion bans, and encourage more people to have children in the future.

What about rape? Those women don't want to be pregnant. WTF.

How is offering a woman who is already pregnant from rape an IUD or birth control pills going to help her?

It won't help them, which is exactly his point. It's why the idea that contraceptives can just completely replace abortion is nonsensical.

[Ferguson97]

No, because none of those are a need. If you don't want to become pregnant, it should not be the government's responsibility to help you pay for that, especially when free and low cost options already exist currently. 

The government should, however, do more to help families that will be created out of abortion bans, and encourage more people to have children in the future.

What about rape? Those women don't want to be pregnant. WTF.

How is offering a woman who is already pregnant from rape an IUD or birth control pills going to help her?

It won't help them, which is exactly his point. It's why the idea that contraceptives can just completely replace abortion is nonsensical.

But if you are on contraceptives, it alleviates the need for abortion if you are raped while you are on them.

The pill is not 100% effective. And someone should not be forced to carry a pregnancy even if they just forget to take the pill.

[Ferguson97]

Yes, and they should also be free in states where abortion is legal.

There are enough necessary things to spend tax dollars on. The environment, education, expanding Medicare/Medicaid. And if we really have run out of good things to spend extra money on (which I assure you we haven't) you can give everybody a tax break. But it's certainly not a good idea to spend taxpayer money on this - people who want it can pay for it themselves. Contraception is not a human right and it doesn't need to be funded by the government. I wouldn't necessarily oppose contraception funded by the government in states with abortion bans, but in states without them, you can pay for it yourself.

I completely and 100% disagree.

[Ferguson97]

Yes; this seems like a straightforwardly direct way to maintain present eugenic policy without the cruelty of abortion or worse. I would obviously discourage contraception in my household, though, for the same reason.

"IUDs are eugenics" lmao you sound deranged.