Biden admin proposes new Title IX rules,ending cross examination

[lfromnj]

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/biden-admin-proposes-sweeping-changes-title-ix-undo-trump-era-rules-rcna34915?cid=ed_npd_bn_tw_bn

The proposed rules would keep some Trump-era mandates, such as ordering schools to presume an accused student innocent until the conclusion of a grievance procedure and continue to permit informal resolutions of sexual misconduct complaints if both accuser and the accused agree.

They would also allow schools to use a clear and convincing evidence standard of proof — which generally means about 75 percent certain — to determine if an accused student violated sexual misconduct rules, but only if it’s also used by the school in other discrimination cases, like those involving racial harassment. Otherwise, schools must use the preponderance of the evidence standard, or about 51 percent certain, the same threshold used in most civil lawsuits.

[GeneralMacArthur]

Preponderance of evidence is garbage.  There's never any evidence in any of these cases.  But the accuser will always come out on the right side of that 51% because the kangaroo courts want to find her more credible.

https://talkelections.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=425528.msg7910959#msg7910959

[RussFeingoldWasRobbed]

Why do democrats insist on dying on this hill?

[Aurelius]

Terrible.

[RussFeingoldWasRobbed]

I swear if stuff like this keeps piling up, the D-R gender gap will explode

[Beet]

They should just go back to the system in place under the Bush administration.

[darklordoftech]

Why do democrats insist on dying on this hill?

Because Biden is a Catholic fundamentalist who thinks sex between unmarried people should be prosecuted as rape.

[lfromnj]

They should just go back to the system in place under the Bush administration.

What are the differences between the Trump and Bush admin?

[Ferguson97]

Whether you think that the standard should be 75% or 51%, I'm not exactly sure how you can objectively quantify certainty.

[Mr. Reactionary]

Despicable but unsurprising from the Brandon administration.

[dead0man]

well, this is disappointing.  I was really expecting some of our lesser red avs to ask "what's the problem here?  Why do you hate women?"

[Alben Barkley]

Wait, if they're going to apply Title IX to transgender students, does that include sports? That might be even worse than the part OP highlighted, which sounds like a slight improvement over the (terrible) Obama era rules. One of the main and most celebrated parts of Title IX was intended to give women equal access to athletics.

[Mr. Reactionary]

Wait, if they're going to apply Title IX to transgender students, does that include sports? That might be even worse than the part OP highlighted, which sounds like a slight improvement over the (terrible) Obama era rules. One of the main and most celebrated parts of Title IX was intended to give women equal access to athletics.

Not just Title IX. Brandon has a memo floating around threatening to defund school breakfast and lunch programs for any school that protects female sports.

[DaleCooper]

Guilty whether proven innocent or not.

[Ferguson97]

One of the main and most celebrated parts of Title IX was intended to give women equal access to athletics.

Yes, and that includes giving trans women equal access to sports.

[Aurelius]

https://mobile.twitter.com/NoahPollak/status/1539994500625444864

Now fight. I wanna see 10 pages out of this.

[Since I'm the mad scientist proclaimed by myself]

Wait, if they're going to apply Title IX to transgender students, does that include sports? That might be even worse than the part OP highlighted, which sounds like a slight improvement over the (terrible) Obama era rules. One of the main and most celebrated parts of Title IX was intended to give women equal access to athletics.

Not just Title IX. Brandon has a memo floating around threatening to defund school breakfast and lunch programs for any school that protects female sports.

Pretty sure the proposed rule is that school lunch programs would lose funding only if the school lunch programs themselves discriminated against trans kids, not if the rest of the schools policies were discriminatory.

[World politics is up Schmitt creek]

Wait, if they're going to apply Title IX to transgender students, does that include sports? That might be even worse than the part OP highlighted, which sounds like a slight improvement over the (terrible) Obama era rules. One of the main and most celebrated parts of Title IX was intended to give women equal access to athletics.

Not just Title IX. Brandon has a memo floating around threatening to defund school breakfast and lunch programs for any school that protects female sports.

Pretty sure the proposed rule is that school lunch programs would lose funding only if the school lunch programs themselves discriminated against trans kids, not if the rest of the schools policies were discriminatory.

Outright stripping funding still strikes me as about the worst possible solution here, although I suppose collective punishment of students via withholding of funds has been a mainstay of federal education policy for long enough anyway that we shouldn't really be surprised.

[Ferguson97]

Wait, if they're going to apply Title IX to transgender students, does that include sports? That might be even worse than the part OP highlighted, which sounds like a slight improvement over the (terrible) Obama era rules. One of the main and most celebrated parts of Title IX was intended to give women equal access to athletics.

Not just Title IX. Brandon has a memo floating around threatening to defund school breakfast and lunch programs for any school that protects female sports.

Pretty sure the proposed rule is that school lunch programs would lose funding only if the school lunch programs themselves discriminated against trans kids, not if the rest of the schools policies were discriminatory.

Outright stripping funding still strikes me as about the worst possible solution here, although I suppose collective punishment of students via withholding of funds has been a mainstay of federal education policy for long enough anyway that we shouldn't really be surprised.

If a school will willingly forgoes federal funding for school lunches because they would rather discriminate against trans kids, then the one instituting collective punishment is not the Biden administration, it's the school administration.

[World politics is up Schmitt creek]

Wait, if they're going to apply Title IX to transgender students, does that include sports? That might be even worse than the part OP highlighted, which sounds like a slight improvement over the (terrible) Obama era rules. One of the main and most celebrated parts of Title IX was intended to give women equal access to athletics.

Not just Title IX. Brandon has a memo floating around threatening to defund school breakfast and lunch programs for any school that protects female sports.

Pretty sure the proposed rule is that school lunch programs would lose funding only if the school lunch programs themselves discriminated against trans kids, not if the rest of the schools policies were discriminatory.

Outright stripping funding still strikes me as about the worst possible solution here, although I suppose collective punishment of students via withholding of funds has been a mainstay of federal education policy for long enough anyway that we shouldn't really be surprised.

If a school will willingly forgoes federal funding for school lunches because they would rather discriminate against trans kids, then the one instituting collective punishment is not the Biden administration, it's the school administration.

It's both, and it's not like the kids can do anything about it either way.

[Mr. Reactionary]

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/jun/16/republican-ags-urge-biden-scrap-policy-tying-schoo/

This is where I saw linking school lunch to sports.

[Person Man]

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/jun/16/republican-ags-urge-biden-scrap-policy-tying-schoo/

This is where I saw linking school lunch to sports.

Do you have any articles from the actual news?

[GM Team Member and Senator WB]

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/jun/16/republican-ags-urge-biden-scrap-policy-tying-schoo/

This is where I saw linking school lunch to sports.

Do you have any articles from the actual news?

I mean I'd like more than one article but it's not like he's linking infowars (even if the source has a clear bias)