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« on: June 21, 2022, 08:56:20 PM »

Should former South Dakota Attorney General, former poster and murderer Jason Ravensborg's account be banned?
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« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2022, 08:59:42 PM »

Absolutely.
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« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2022, 09:40:20 PM »

I think the perspective of an elected official who was removed from office for killing somebody through negligent driving might actually be an interesting one, the unreliable narrator aspect aside, but alas, he isn't posting here anyway.  So what would be the point?
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« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2022, 06:01:17 AM »

He's not been convicted of a felony.  Let's look at what happened:

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He was charged with three misdemeanors—careless driving, driving out of his lane, and operating a car while using a cell phone. Ravnsborg pleaded no contest to driving out of his lane and operating a car while using a cell phone; the careless driving charge was dismissed. Subsequent investigation and legislative proceedings resulted in Ravnsborg's impeachment by the South Dakota House of Representatives in April 2022. He was suspended from office while the South Dakota Senate deliberated, and on June 21, 2022, Ravnsborg was convicted and removed from office.

Pepole need to stop lying about Ravnsborg, esspecially those who lionized Ted Kennedy.  We don't cancel the accounts of posters for new misdemeanors.  He was not convicted of a crime of killing this unfortunate woman driver.  Would you want people to treat you that way?  Is it OK to do so just because Revnsborg is a conservative Republican. 
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« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2022, 08:13:02 AM »

Nobody should be banned for offsite behavior unless they try and bring that offsite behavior on here. If Ravnsborg returned and started bragging about how he personally ended someone's life then he should be banned, but if he wants to come back and post about polling data for 2022 South Dakota state elections then he should be allowed to.
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« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2022, 08:31:02 AM »

Nobody should be banned for offsite behavior unless they try and bring that offsite behavior on here. If Ravnsborg returned and started bragging about how he personally ended someone's life then he should be banned, but if he wants to come back and post about polling data for 2022 South Dakota state elections then he should be allowed to.
Would you support not banning Einzige if he wasn't already banned? How about unbanning Snowguy?
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« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2022, 08:57:59 AM »

Nobody should be banned for offsite behavior unless they try and bring that offsite behavior on here.

Like opebo?
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« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2022, 09:52:22 AM »

Nobody should be banned for offsite behavior unless they try and bring that offsite behavior on here. If Ravnsborg returned and started bragging about how he personally ended someone's life then he should be banned, but if he wants to come back and post about polling data for 2022 South Dakota state elections then he should be allowed to.
Would you support not banning Einzige if he wasn't already banned? How about unbanning Snowguy?

I don't know who those people are or why they were banned so I'm not going to comment, but seeing as how I'm willing to accommodate somebody who literally killed an innocent person that should indicate my stance on whether or not people's offsite behavior should be brought up on this website, again unless they bring it up first.
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« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2022, 10:03:00 AM »

Nobody should be banned for offsite behavior unless they try and bring that offsite behavior on here. If Ravnsborg returned and started bragging about how he personally ended someone's life then he should be banned, but if he wants to come back and post about polling data for 2022 South Dakota state elections then he should be allowed to.
Would you support not banning Einzige if he wasn't already banned? How about unbanning Snowguy?

I don't know who those people are or why they were banned so I'm not going to comment, but seeing as how I'm willing to accommodate somebody who literally killed an innocent person that should indicate my stance on whether or not people's offsite behavior should be brought up on this website, again unless they bring it up first.
One was convicted of possession of child pornography including images of a 7-year old, the other is a registered sex offender who tried to solicit hiring minors for sex.
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« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2022, 10:07:36 AM »

Nobody should be banned for offsite behavior unless they try and bring that offsite behavior on here. If Ravnsborg returned and started bragging about how he personally ended someone's life then he should be banned, but if he wants to come back and post about polling data for 2022 South Dakota state elections then he should be allowed to.
Would you support not banning Einzige if he wasn't already banned? How about unbanning Snowguy?

I don't know who those people are or why they were banned so I'm not going to comment, but seeing as how I'm willing to accommodate somebody who literally killed an innocent person that should indicate my stance on whether or not people's offsite behavior should be brought up on this website, again unless they bring it up first.
One was convicted of possession of child pornography including images of a 7-year old, the other is a registered sex offender who tried to solicit hiring minors for sex.

This must have happened with Snowguy while I was on hiatus.  Which one was him?
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« Reply #10 on: June 23, 2022, 10:16:05 AM »

Nobody should be banned for offsite behavior unless they try and bring that offsite behavior on here. If Ravnsborg returned and started bragging about how he personally ended someone's life then he should be banned, but if he wants to come back and post about polling data for 2022 South Dakota state elections then he should be allowed to.
Would you support not banning Einzige if he wasn't already banned? How about unbanning Snowguy?

I don't know who those people are or why they were banned so I'm not going to comment, but seeing as how I'm willing to accommodate somebody who literally killed an innocent person that should indicate my stance on whether or not people's offsite behavior should be brought up on this website, again unless they bring it up first.
One was convicted of possession of child pornography including images of a 7-year old, the other is a registered sex offender who tried to solicit hiring minors for sex.

I'm assuming that the fact that anyone even knows this probably means that they somehow brought this drama into Atlas, which would fit my criteria for getting banned for offsite behavior.
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« Reply #11 on: June 23, 2022, 10:19:48 AM »

Nobody should be banned for offsite behavior unless they try and bring that offsite behavior on here. If Ravnsborg returned and started bragging about how he personally ended someone's life then he should be banned, but if he wants to come back and post about polling data for 2022 South Dakota state elections then he should be allowed to.
Would you support not banning Einzige if he wasn't already banned? How about unbanning Snowguy?

I don't know who those people are or why they were banned so I'm not going to comment, but seeing as how I'm willing to accommodate somebody who literally killed an innocent person that should indicate my stance on whether or not people's offsite behavior should be brought up on this website, again unless they bring it up first.
One was convicted of possession of child pornography including images of a 7-year old, the other is a registered sex offender who tried to solicit hiring minors for sex.

This must have happened with Snowguy while I was on hiatus.  Which one was him?
He had the possession of child pornography charge.
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« Reply #12 on: June 23, 2022, 10:21:03 AM »

Nobody should be banned for offsite behavior unless they try and bring that offsite behavior on here. If Ravnsborg returned and started bragging about how he personally ended someone's life then he should be banned, but if he wants to come back and post about polling data for 2022 South Dakota state elections then he should be allowed to.
Would you support not banning Einzige if he wasn't already banned? How about unbanning Snowguy?

I don't know who those people are or why they were banned so I'm not going to comment, but seeing as how I'm willing to accommodate somebody who literally killed an innocent person that should indicate my stance on whether or not people's offsite behavior should be brought up on this website, again unless they bring it up first.
One was convicted of possession of child pornography including images of a 7-year old, the other is a registered sex offender who tried to solicit hiring minors for sex.

I'm assuming that the fact that anyone even knows this probably means that they somehow brought this drama into Atlas, which would fit my criteria for getting banned for offsite behavior.
Actually not really. Einzige is already banned so in his case as noted it's just hypothetical. Snowguy was discovered after some drama which did involve him engaging in property damage toward the apartment of another poster.
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« Reply #13 on: June 23, 2022, 10:22:15 AM »

Nobody should be banned for offsite behavior unless they try and bring that offsite behavior on here. If Ravnsborg returned and started bragging about how he personally ended someone's life then he should be banned, but if he wants to come back and post about polling data for 2022 South Dakota state elections then he should be allowed to.
Would you support not banning Einzige if he wasn't already banned? How about unbanning Snowguy?

I don't know who those people are or why they were banned so I'm not going to comment, but seeing as how I'm willing to accommodate somebody who literally killed an innocent person that should indicate my stance on whether or not people's offsite behavior should be brought up on this website, again unless they bring it up first.
One was convicted of possession of child pornography including images of a 7-year old, the other is a registered sex offender who tried to solicit hiring minors for sex.

I'm assuming that the fact that anyone even knows this probably means that they somehow brought this drama into Atlas, which would fit my criteria for getting banned for offsite behavior.
Actually not really. Einzige is already banned so in his case as noted it's just hypothetical. Snowguy was discovered after some drama which did involve him engaging in property damage toward the apartment of another poster.

That definitely meets my criteria for offsite behavior warranting a ban.
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« Reply #14 on: June 23, 2022, 10:22:37 AM »

Nobody should be banned for offsite behavior unless they try and bring that offsite behavior on here. If Ravnsborg returned and started bragging about how he personally ended someone's life then he should be banned, but if he wants to come back and post about polling data for 2022 South Dakota state elections then he should be allowed to.
Would you support not banning Einzige if he wasn't already banned? How about unbanning Snowguy?

I don't know who those people are or why they were banned so I'm not going to comment, but seeing as how I'm willing to accommodate somebody who literally killed an innocent person that should indicate my stance on whether or not people's offsite behavior should be brought up on this website, again unless they bring it up first.
One was convicted of possession of child pornography including images of a 7-year old, the other is a registered sex offender who tried to solicit hiring minors for sex.

This must have happened with Snowguy while I was on hiatus.  Which one was him?
He had the possession of child pornography charge.

Thanks, Red.  Damn, Snowy was here forever and I always liked him as a poster.  But yep, he needed to go.
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« Reply #15 on: June 23, 2022, 04:20:19 PM »

He's not been convicted of a felony.  Let's look at what happened:

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He was charged with three misdemeanors—careless driving, driving out of his lane, and operating a car while using a cell phone. Ravnsborg pleaded no contest to driving out of his lane and operating a car while using a cell phone; the careless driving charge was dismissed. Subsequent investigation and legislative proceedings resulted in Ravnsborg's impeachment by the South Dakota House of Representatives in April 2022. He was suspended from office while the South Dakota Senate deliberated, and on June 21, 2022, Ravnsborg was convicted and removed from office.

Pepole need to stop lying about Ravnsborg, esspecially those who lionized Ted Kennedy.  We don't cancel the accounts of posters for new misdemeanors.  He was not convicted of a crime of killing this unfortunate woman driver.  Would you want people to treat you that way?  Is it OK to do so just because Revnsborg is a conservative Republican. 

This poster has been banned for being a sock of Jason Ravnsborg.
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« Reply #16 on: June 23, 2022, 06:05:20 PM »

He's not been convicted of a felony.  Let's look at what happened:

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He was charged with three misdemeanors—careless driving, driving out of his lane, and operating a car while using a cell phone. Ravnsborg pleaded no contest to driving out of his lane and operating a car while using a cell phone; the careless driving charge was dismissed. Subsequent investigation and legislative proceedings resulted in Ravnsborg's impeachment by the South Dakota House of Representatives in April 2022. He was suspended from office while the South Dakota Senate deliberated, and on June 21, 2022, Ravnsborg was convicted and removed from office.

Pepole need to stop lying about Ravnsborg, esspecially those who lionized Ted Kennedy.  We don't cancel the accounts of posters for new misdemeanors.  He was not convicted of a crime of killing this unfortunate woman driver.  Would you want people to treat you that way?  Is it OK to do so just because Revnsborg is a conservative Republican. 

Yes? I don't want any special treatment.
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« Reply #17 on: June 23, 2022, 07:29:39 PM »

Why is Fuzzy defending Ravnsborg? Fair enough, Ravnsborg doesn't have criminal intent like the people BRTD brought up, but the man killed a person! And you can't even call it an honest mistake because he chose to f-ck around on his phone while driving.
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« Reply #18 on: June 23, 2022, 10:06:28 PM »

Why is Fuzzy defending Ravnsborg? Fair enough, Ravnsborg doesn't have criminal intent like the people BRTD brought up, but the man killed a person! And you can't even call it an honest mistake because he chose to f-ck around on his phone while driving.

He was not convicted of vehicular homicide or negligence.  People are involved in car accidents every day where someone dies but it's not a crime. 

If Favansborg was a Democrat, no one would be suggesting he be banned here.  But I'll say this:  Let every Democrat who wishes to ban Ravnsborg for this publicly condemn Ted Kennedy on this thread to  at least show a shred of fairness.
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« Reply #19 on: June 23, 2022, 10:14:48 PM »

Nobody should be banned for offsite behavior unless they try and bring that offsite behavior on here. If Ravnsborg returned and started bragging about how he personally ended someone's life then he should be banned, but if he wants to come back and post about polling data for 2022 South Dakota state elections then he should be allowed to.
Would you support not banning Einzige if he wasn't already banned? How about unbanning Snowguy?

I don't know who those people are or why they were banned so I'm not going to comment, but seeing as how I'm willing to accommodate somebody who literally killed an innocent person that should indicate my stance on whether or not people's offsite behavior should be brought up on this website, again unless they bring it up first.
One was convicted of possession of child pornography including images of a 7-year old, the other is a registered sex offender who tried to solicit hiring minors for sex.

I'm assuming that the fact that anyone even knows this probably means that they somehow brought this drama into Atlas, which would fit my criteria for getting banned for offsite behavior.
Actually not really. Einzige is already banned so in his case as noted it's just hypothetical. Snowguy was discovered after some drama which did involve him engaging in property damage toward the apartment of another poster.

Both of these situations involve behaviors which indicate that they would be a potential threat to posters here, given that not every poster on Talk Elections is over 18.  That's waaaay different than Ravensborg, and that shouldn't be too hard to figure out.
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« Reply #20 on: June 23, 2022, 10:15:12 PM »

Nobody should be banned for offsite behavior unless they try and bring that offsite behavior on here. If Ravnsborg returned and started bragging about how he personally ended someone's life then he should be banned, but if he wants to come back and post about polling data for 2022 South Dakota state elections then he should be allowed to.
Would you support not banning Einzige if he wasn't already banned? How about unbanning Snowguy?

I don't know who those people are or why they were banned so I'm not going to comment, but seeing as how I'm willing to accommodate somebody who literally killed an innocent person that should indicate my stance on whether or not people's offsite behavior should be brought up on this website, again unless they bring it up first.
One was convicted of possession of child pornography including images of a 7-year old, the other is a registered sex offender who tried to solicit hiring minors for sex.
To be fair, these aren’t really comparable. Children do come on this site, so having sexual predators on the site could cause problems in the future which could be alleviated by banning them preemptively. Ravnsborg not being banned isn’t gonna put Atlas users at an increased rate of getting run over by him
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« Reply #21 on: June 23, 2022, 10:19:50 PM »

The Ravnsborg case has been pretty thoroughly investigated. The fact that he wasn't charged with those specific crimes has more to do with his power and influence and not the fact that he ran someone down because he was on his phone. Few people seem to dispute this and in fact the reason he's no longer in office is because even many Republican politicians agreed. Or, surely they would not #cancel a fellow Republican over a few misdemeanor charges involving reckless driving?

As for the question here - it's moot. People maybe don't realize that we have a number of users here who were born after he stopped posting. Nearly 2 decades! It's been that long. He wasn't even a prolific poster either (although still ~1,000 posts).
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« Reply #22 on: June 23, 2022, 10:30:36 PM »

The Ravnsborg case has been pretty thoroughly investigated. The fact that he wasn't charged with those specific crimes has more to do with his power and influence and not the fact that he ran someone down because he was on his phone. Few people seem to dispute this and in fact the reason he's no longer in office is because even many Republican politicians agreed. Or, surely they would not #cancel a fellow Republican over a few misdemeanor charges involving reckless driving?

As for the question here - it's moot. People maybe don't realize that we have a number of users here who were born after he stopped posting. Nearly 2 decades! It's been that long. He wasn't even a prolific poster either (although still ~1,000 posts).
I've said before that I actually find the idea of him posting here just because he basically doesn't have anything better to do to be so hilarious that alone makes me oppose it, although it's a silly thing to push for in regards to a guy who hasn't posted here in 17 years regardless.
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« Reply #23 on: June 23, 2022, 11:21:46 PM »

You aren’t better than anyone else because you made a thread on wanting to ban a poster that hasn’t posted in like 18 years.
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« Reply #24 on: June 24, 2022, 12:38:14 AM »

Why is Fuzzy defending Ravnsborg? Fair enough, Ravnsborg doesn't have criminal intent like the people BRTD brought up, but the man killed a person! And you can't even call it an honest mistake because he chose to f-ck around on his phone while driving.

He was not convicted of vehicular homicide or negligence.  People are involved in car accidents every day where someone dies but it's not a crime. 

If Favansborg was a Democrat, no one would be suggesting he be banned here.  But I'll say this:  Let every Democrat who wishes to ban Ravnsborg for this publicly condemn Ted Kennedy on this thread to  at least show a shred of fairness.

I don't care if it's a crime. He chose to put other people at risk and killed somebody.
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