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« on: June 30, 2022, 08:18:41 AM »

Well let's see what happens. My guess is that Michaeli will eventually be pressured to merge with Meretz. That party will get like 6 seats, so we probably won't be seeing excellent MKs like Ibtisam Maraana in the next Knesset.
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« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2022, 04:16:46 PM »



Completely unimaginable just a couple years ago.
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« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2022, 05:21:08 AM »

In other esoteric news:
MK Yair Golan (former general, constant foot in his mouth, much less pro Palestinian in rhetoric than Meretz) is running for Meretz leadership against Nitzan Horovitz.
Party chairman Eran Hermoni is running for Labor leadership against Merav Michaeli. Seems to be running to absorb Labor into KL. Electing a pale party man would obviously be the death of the party (not that Michaeli's "I'm going to be PM" line isn't threatening the threshold).
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« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2022, 06:35:58 AM »


That's not going to happen. Even if the Haredi finally renounce him his position in Likud is rock solid for as long as he wants, and that length will equal the time until his trial is over at least.


That reminds me.  How is the Netanyahu trial going?  Is there a risk he will be forced out of politics in the coming year or two due to a guilty verdict or is the legal process going to be very long which would mean he can stay on as PM or LoP for as long as he wants?
They began hearing testimonies on the second of his indictments. So a verdict is pretty far off, and with the inevitable appeal even further. We're talking 2-3 years I believe.

My opinion is that the bribe charges as weakened dramatically and I don't think they can prove a mens rea. But the charges of Breach of Trust are solid.

Are we talking a conviction with disgrace?
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« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2022, 06:38:03 AM »

In other esoteric news:
MK Yair Golan (former general, constant foot in his mouth, much less pro Palestinian in rhetoric than Meretz) is running for Meretz leadership against Nitzan Horovitz.
Party chairman Eran Hermoni is running for Labor leadership against Merav Michaeli. Seems to be running to absorb Labor into KL. Electing a pale party man would obviously be the death of the party (not that Michaeli's "I'm going to be PM" line isn't threatening the threshold).
Hermoni has no chance.
Golan is well despised by most Meretz members, but the socialist wing (that crowned Horowitz) might crown him to allow a more moderate meretz and appeal to Labour for a merger. Judging by the results of the internal elections there last week it seems the socialists have lost some ground in the party. Unless Zandberg spoils the vote Horowitz is set to win as the lesser evil

Yeah, Hermoni is a lol-tier candidate. I guess his best chance is if turnout is abysmal and only hacks come out, but it's unlikely to be that bad
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« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2022, 07:26:08 AM »

In other esoteric news:
MK Yair Golan (former general, constant foot in his mouth, much less pro Palestinian in rhetoric than Meretz) is running for Meretz leadership against Nitzan Horovitz.
Party chairman Eran Hermoni is running for Labor leadership against Merav Michaeli. Seems to be running to absorb Labor into KL. Electing a pale party man would obviously be the death of the party (not that Michaeli's "I'm going to be PM" line isn't threatening the threshold).
Hermoni has no chance.
Golan is well despised by most Meretz members, but the socialist wing (that crowned Horowitz) might crown him to allow a more moderate meretz and appeal to Labour for a merger. Judging by the results of the internal elections there last week it seems the socialists have lost some ground in the party. Unless Zandberg spoils the vote Horowitz is set to win as the lesser evil

Yeah, Hermoni is a lol-tier candidate. I guess his best chance is if turnout is abysmal and only hacks come out, but it's unlikely to be that bad
tbf Michaeli isn't exactly the champion of party democracy and arranged for there to be only 4 ballot boxes across the entire country.

Isn't it possible to vote online? That's what I did in last year's list primaries anyway
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« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2022, 09:38:17 AM »

In other esoteric news:
MK Yair Golan (former general, constant foot in his mouth, much less pro Palestinian in rhetoric than Meretz) is running for Meretz leadership against Nitzan Horovitz.
Party chairman Eran Hermoni is running for Labor leadership against Merav Michaeli. Seems to be running to absorb Labor into KL. Electing a pale party man would obviously be the death of the party (not that Michaeli's "I'm going to be PM" line isn't threatening the threshold).
Hermoni has no chance.
Golan is well despised by most Meretz members, but the socialist wing (that crowned Horowitz) might crown him to allow a more moderate meretz and appeal to Labour for a merger. Judging by the results of the internal elections there last week it seems the socialists have lost some ground in the party. Unless Zandberg spoils the vote Horowitz is set to win as the lesser evil

Yeah, Hermoni is a lol-tier candidate. I guess his best chance is if turnout is abysmal and only hacks come out, but it's unlikely to be that bad
tbf Michaeli isn't exactly the champion of party democracy and arranged for there to be only 4 ballot boxes across the entire country.

Isn't it possible to vote online? That's what I did in last year's list primaries anyway
I think so. But we both know Hermoni is reliant on older voters. I can't see my aunt taking a taxi to get to Haifa to vote for Hermoni and I can't see her voting online

Might be more interesting to see how it affects the list primary (if it also has a lack of stations). I get the feeling that Lazimi, Rayten and maybe Maraana will do well with young voters. Bar Lev and Shai will be harmed by less old turnout
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« Reply #7 on: July 09, 2022, 05:43:46 AM »

Is there a reason that Yamina couldn't, or wouldn't, run on a joint list with New Hope? (For that matter Labor-Meretz also makes a great deal of sense and has been done in the past, but since the leadership is the same as last time this doesn't seem very likely.)
Saar is committed to a government with no Bibi. Shaked is trying not to rule it out.
I suppose Saar is not too happy about bringing Shaked and her hornets nest of a party in. NH was a cohesive loyal unit where Yamina dissolved as a party. He might recruit Kahane if the merger with B&W won’t happen.

Labour-Meretz is tricky. Everyone in Meretz wants it, most in Labour as well (52% of Labour voters according to a poll from yesterday). But Michaeli is Michaeli.
It seems Meretz are trying to line up their most moderate list so that a merger would be easier to swallow with Raz and Lasky pushed back

In regards to the center-right it seems like a chess game: Sa'ar likely wants Kahane since he's popular with the centrist anti-Bibi base, but the Haredim view him as a red line and so Gantz, who has fantasies of being PM on the back of Haredi support, probably doesn't want him. So if Sa'ar wants to join Gantz, he can't take Kahana yet. The whole NH-KL merger is generally going to be a bit awkward- Gantz has a lot of populist wannabe-Mapai elements in his party like Schuster and Biton, and trying to mix them in with Haskel is kind of weird. But she has been pretty loyal to Sa'ar so who knows.

With Labor-Meretz I suspect it's not just Michaeli but the Labor MKs- they don't want to get pushed out of the Knesset (since the joint party won't generate enthusiasm and will inevitably end up at 6-7 seats after Lapid is down drinking, leaving space just for Michaeli and max 3 other Labor MKs). I suspect they'll play a game of chicken with Meretz until the listst close- but personally I think it's unlikely Meretz doesn't run. It's an old institutional party, and this brings with it a lot of ego, pride and jobs.

Personally I think the best way to end this constant struggle with Meretz and Labor is to create a new party where everyone runs in an open primary, but that has no chance of happening. At least until we get something like Meretz 0 Labor 4 that truly shatters these parties.
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« Reply #8 on: July 10, 2022, 05:15:37 AM »

Israel's favorite unbiased (far right radical) political journalist, Amit Segal, is reporting that New Hope and Kahol Lavan are close to an agreement for a joint run. They want to sign soon so they can get Eisenkot (former IDF Chief, contemplating joining Yesh Atid or KL) and get better polling vs Lapid.

Apparently it's going to be:
1. Gantz
2. Sa'ar
3. KL
4. KL
5. Shasha-Biton (NH)
6. KL
7. Elkin (NH)

Communication Minister Yoaz Hendel is out. I'm pretty sure it's because Gantz is desperate for the Haredim to like him and Hendel passed a reform that lets Haredi people move their numbers to non kosher phones which made him an enemy of the Haredi establishment, but we also remember the time Hendel prevented Gantz from being PM by coming out against a minority government with outside support from the Joint List. Hard to see Benny Begin or Sharen Haskel joining this weird political body either.
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« Reply #9 on: July 10, 2022, 06:32:01 AM »

Israel's favorite unbiased (far right radical) political journalist, Amit Segal, is reporting that New Hope and Kahol Lavan are close to an agreement for a joint run. They want to sign soon so they can get Eisenkot (former IDF Chief, contemplating joining Yesh Atid or KL) and get better polling vs Lapid.

Apparently it's going to be:
1. Gantz
2. Sa'ar
3. KL
4. KL
5. Shasha-Biton (NH)
6. KL
7. Elkin (NH)

Communication Minister Yoaz Hendel is out. I'm pretty sure it's because Gantz is desperate for the Haredim to like him and Hendel passed a reform that lets Haredi people move their numbers to non kosher phones which made him an enemy of the Haredi establishment, but we also remember the time Hendel prevented Gantz from being PM by coming out against a minority government with outside support from the Joint List. Hard to see Benny Begin or Sharen Haskel joining this weird political body either.
It's:
Gantz
Saar
Tamano Shatta (?)
Truper
Shsha Bitton
Bitton
Elkin

He's actually keeping Bitton after the trouble he caused? Lol
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« Reply #10 on: July 10, 2022, 10:06:31 AM »

Gantz + Lapid joint run is official.
Meanwhile, the court gave Amichai Chikli (first Yamina defector, one of the most homophobic America-style culture warriors in the Israeli right) an out, he'll be allowed to leave the knesset and get a spot in an existing list (I assume Likud).
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« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2022, 01:48:57 PM »

Gantz Sa'ar union gets just 13 seats in new poll, 15 if Eisenkot joins them. This is a flop- usually parties are at peak enthusiasm after announcement, and decline from there. If he can't even come close to Lapid with Eisenkot included, I wager he'll end up with 8-10 seats in the end.
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« Reply #12 on: July 12, 2022, 06:45:52 AM »

Meretz chairman Horowitz stands down. I guess the red powers that be told him his time is up.

Now it's either Yair Golan takes it or Galon is back to save the party

Surely someone like Zandberg will try... No? They'll actually let Yair Golan take it?
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« Reply #13 on: July 17, 2022, 06:49:38 AM »

Meretz chairman Horowitz stands down. I guess the red powers that be told him his time is up.

Now it's either Yair Golan takes it or Galon is back to save the party

Surely someone like Zandberg will try... No? They'll actually let Yair Golan take it?
The reds control 40% of the membership. They basically decide unless everyone unites against them. I really doubt everyone would agree to unite behind Zandberg. She's not well liked
Well even the reds support Galon.

really speaks volumes about Golan when everyone hates him.

In other news, all of Labour MKs endorse Michaeli.

Eisenkot is heading to B&W. poor choice by him

Some internal strife in Likud over the way they'll pick the slots on the list allocated to regional Likud branches

What's your read on how Meretz's list will look like?
Gotta say, a list consisting of Galon, Rozin and Horovitz at the top will look more appealing for a merger with Labor.
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« Reply #14 on: July 27, 2022, 11:48:43 AM »
« Edited: July 27, 2022, 12:23:19 PM by America Needs R'hllor »

Derech Eretz (Minister Yoaz Hendel and MK Michael Hauser) running with Yamina and got the 2nd and 4th spots on the list. I'm assuming it'll look like:

1. Shaked
2. Hendel
3. Desperate Yamina MK who didn't find a better party
4. Hauser
5. Even more esperate Yamina MK who didn't find a better party

I can't see a scenario where they pass the threshold.

Edit: the party's going to get a new name- "Zionist Spirit" (I wonder when they'll run out of right wing sounding names). Apparently Shaked wants go bring a religious zionist figure - possibly Yossi Brudani, a long time Mayor nominated by the Jewish Home of old to lead their list. If so, assuming he gets place #3, that leaves Yamina members out of the top 4.
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« Reply #15 on: August 05, 2022, 04:39:13 AM »

So, any recommendations on who I should vote for in the Labor list primary?
My current list:
100% sure: MKs Ibtisam Maraana and Gilad Kariv, anti corruption activist Tomer Avital
Maybe: MKs Naama Lazimi and Efrat Rayten, former Tel Aviv City Councillors Maharte Baruch and Maya Nuri, left-religious activist Yaya Fink
Absolutely not: journalist Yair Tarchitsky
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« Reply #16 on: August 05, 2022, 10:40:00 AM »

So, any recommendations on who I should vote for in the Labor list primary?
My current list:
100% sure: MKs Ibtisam Maraana and Gilad Kariv, anti corruption activist Tomer Avital
Maybe: MKs Naama Lazimi and Efrat Rayten, former Tel Aviv City Councillors Maharte Baruch and Maya Nuri, left-religious activist Yaya Fink
Absolutely not: journalist Yair Tarchitsky
For: Maraana, Lazimi, Nuri.
Agnostic: Kariv, Ryten.
Absolutely not: Shefa, Avital, Maharte.

Maharte is one disloyal opportunist. It will be a bad call letting her in. Lazimi had been a great council member in Haifa and a good MK, despite some differences I think she's worthy of a spot. Avital is an absolute empty shell of a person and he shouldn't be a legislature. And Shefa is nothing but a lobbyist of rich farmers and Kibbutzniks

I've been iffy on Avital but he kinda convinced me via WhatsApp. I like that he's not dogmatic on economics - we need this balance, plus I think he could be good electorally. But I guess I'll need to think about it more.
Why do you like Nuri?

Honestly the MK I'm most enthusiastic about is Maraana. Probably my favorite MK right now
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« Reply #17 on: August 09, 2022, 02:21:30 AM »

Labour primaries today. As someone who recalls the first real primaries vividly (1992, there were leadership primaries since 1981) it's quite sad to see what happened to the party since. My grandad had a list of people from the "right" camp (i.e., Peres not Rabin or the youngsters around Ramon) and the Haifa branch was so big back then there were 3 voting stations in town (there were over 250K voters).

Well nostalgia aside here's my prediction for today:
1. Michaeli (chairman)
2. Kariv
3. Bar Lev
4. Lazimi
5. Shefa
6. Ryten
7. Fink
8. Moati
9. Shay
10. Maraana

Michaeli might conveniently use her power to place 2 candidates in the first 10 by putting one on the 7th spot pushing Fink and Moati back.


Isn't there a criss cross system of man-woman-man-woman, meaning that 2 men in a row is impossible? Anyway I voted for:
- Maraana
- Kariv
- Lazimi
- Nuri
- Avital
- Rayten
- Fink

And this is my prediction (probably going to be awfully wrong):
1. Michaeli
2. Rayten
3. Kariv
4. Lazimi
5. Bar Lev
6. Moati
7. Shefa
8. Maraana
9. Fink
10. Honestly idk since it has to be a woman, Nuri?
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« Reply #18 on: August 09, 2022, 12:23:14 PM »

~58% turnout

1. Michaeli
2.Naama Lazimi
3. Gilad Kariv
4. Efrat Ryten
5. Ram Shefa
6. Emili Moati
7. Yaya Fink
8. Ibtisam Maraana
9. Omer Bar Lev
10. Mahrate Baruch
11. Amir Knifes (who?)
12. Maya Nuri

Yair Tarchitsky is 23rd which is poor for him
Tomer Avital 19...hahahhaha
Nachman Shay 17! wow that's a big finger from the voters

Massive for Lazimi and the socialists

Knifes is a longtime Druze party activist.

This is a big drama indeed - Bar Lev is a big loser here, almost certainly out of the next Knesset. Maraana also likely out but she might get in if the party has 6-6 seats and is in government. Shay also a huge loser, voters said "bye bye old men". Tarchitsky doing so badly is interesting considering Lazimi is first - suggests the voters aren't exactly ideological socialists, but Lazimi was able to be broadly popular. Fink might juuuust about miss it again.

I hoped Maraana can pass Moati but I guess the results are fine.
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« Reply #19 on: August 11, 2022, 07:08:10 AM »
« Edited: August 11, 2022, 07:19:13 AM by America Needs R'hllor »

99% counted in the likud primary:
- top 5 is Yariv Levin, Eli Cohen, Yoav Gallant, David Amsalem, Amir Ohana. A mix of uncontroversial Netanyahu toadies and combative extremists.
- Nir Barkat 7th (8th on the list), not great but puts him in a good position for the succession.
- Yisrael Katz down to the 13th spot, embarrassing for him
- Yuli Edlestein down from 2nd to 24th, if I were him I'd resign
- only 4 women in the top 30- Miri Regev 9th, Galit Distel (biggest Netanyahu cultist and most deranged person in the party) 20th, Attorney Tali Gotliv (known for representing rapists with the most disgusting tactics of victim blaming and deriding you can imagine) in the 25th spot reserved for a new woman, longtime MK Gila Gamliel in an embarrassing 30th place
- fmr UN Ambassador Danny Danon 15th, fmr Yisrael Hayom editor Boaz Bismuth 27th (after reserved spots, by raw votes he's like 19th)
- Kahanist May Golan 32nd
- longest serving non Netanyahu Likud MK Tzachi Hanegbi out, placed 46th
- Flops: far right activist Eretz Tadmor 47th, Gilad Sharon (son of Ariel) 48th, MK Orly Levy Abekasis 50th, Bibi economic advisor Avi Simchon 53rd, former hyped Zehut leader Moshe Feiglin 54th, fmr MKs Ayoob Kara and Osnat Mark, and Jerusalem Deputy Mayor Fleur Hassan Nahum even below that

Edit: looks like Edlestein passed Haim Katz and will jump to spot 18. Small consolation
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« Reply #20 on: August 11, 2022, 08:07:42 AM »

Nissim Vaturi, the dumbest person to grace the Knesset, is back! At least Likud always provide comic relief

In the morning they reported that Lior Lasry, a loser who ran for maalot tarshiha mayor but lost because he's an elitist everyone hates, has a lead in that district. Sad!
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« Reply #21 on: August 11, 2022, 08:27:19 AM »

99% counted in the likud primary:
- top 5 is Yariv Levin, Eli Cohen, Yoav Gallant, David Amsalem, Amir Ohana. A mix of uncontroversial Netanyahu toadies and combative extremists.
- Nir Barkat 7th (8th on the list), not great but puts him in a good position for the succession.
- Yisrael Katz down to the 13th spot, embarrassing for him
- Yuli Edlestein down from 2nd to 24th, if I were him I'd resign
- only 4 women in the top 30- Miri Regev 9th, Galit Distel (biggest Netanyahu cultist and most deranged person in the party) 20th, Attorney Tali Gotliv (known for representing rapists with the most disgusting tactics of victim blaming and deriding you can imagine) in the 25th spot reserved for a new woman, longtime MK Gila Gamliel in an embarrassing 30th place
- fmr UN Ambassador Danny Danon 15th, fmr Yisrael Hayom editor Boaz Bismuth 27th (after reserved spots, by raw votes he's like 19th)
- Kahanist May Golan 32nd
- longest serving non Netanyahu Likud MK Tzachi Hanegbi out, placed 46th
- Flops: far right activist Eretz Tadmor 47th, Gilad Sharon (son of Ariel) 48th, MK Orly Levy Abekasis 50th, Bibi economic advisor Avi Simchon 53rd, former hyped Zehut leader Moshe Feiglin 54th, fmr MKs Ayoob Kara and Osnat Mark, and Jerusalem Deputy Mayor Fleur Hassan Nahum even below that

Edit: looks like Edlestein passed Haim Katz and will jump to spot 18. Small consolation

Does the fact Levy & Feiglin came so low down mean they may try and revive their personal parties? Getting 1-2% between them could be enough to drag others down below the threshold and affect the final makeup.

Nah they won't do it. Running a party takes time, money and effort. Plus Levy couldn't get more than a thousand votes these days.
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« Reply #22 on: August 14, 2022, 12:53:27 AM »

Former IDF Chief Eisenkot joins Gantz and Sa'ar, for some reason they're naming their joint list "hamachane hamamlachti". It's a word that doesn't really exist in English, but translates roughly to the "statesman camp" or "respectable camp"
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« Reply #23 on: August 14, 2022, 02:29:52 AM »

Former IDF CoGS LTG. Eisenkot joins B&W+NH and they will run under the banner the "Statist Party"*. The party vows to hold open primaries before the next election cycle.
I think it's a mistake by everyone. B&W fail to see where the wind is blowing to, ex-generals aren't that appealing as they were. Eisenkot is going to be a number 3 in a party that is unlikely to form a government or survive much past the interests of its two current leaders.
He should have either joined Lapid or start from scratch with Labour.


* I have a hard time translating the term ממלכתי to English. It's a very idiosyncratic Israeli political concept that denotes to Ben Gurion's desire to ditch the pre-48 class/partisan politics and cherish the new political institutions. It's about reverence to the state institutions and radical centrism. I think the name is a reference of Ben-Gurion's failed splinter party that ran in 1969 (Wikipedia translated it as the National List but I don't think it does justice to the meaning) and Eisenkot is a huge fan of Ben Gurion (overrated PM for me).
I think statism captures more of the essence here
I think "Institutionalist Party" would be a better translation then. Statist is frequently used in a pejorative sense by opponents to refer to someone who wants a big, hugely powerful government in English, though I definitely get where you are coming from using it here.

I feel like "institutionalist" captures it pretty well! Statist sounds a bit weird, but also hilarious so I'm fine with that too. I do wonder what the media will take up.

Matan Kahana, former Religious Affairs Minister and a red line for Haredim, will join the new party in #9 (might actually not enter if they decline- probably placed so low to placate the haredim).
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« Reply #24 on: August 15, 2022, 02:56:17 AM »

Yesh Atid seems to be catching up:


Sorry, didn't saw that the poll had been already posted. Anyway, does the N&W+NH merger benefits Lapid, because it looks that Gantz is a bit desperate?


It could or could not benefit Lapid. On the one hand, it ensures Gantz/Saar pass the threshold and lets him enter maximum vote drinking mode from them. On the other hand, if they do better than expected, Gantz could try to become PM.
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