2000: No 22nd Amendment

[Blow by blow, the passion dies]

I think Bill Clinton would win, even with the Lewinsky scandal as the economy was booming.

[Alben Barkley]

1996 repeat, give or take AZ, KY, and TN.

[MT Treasurer]

Obviously Bill wins in a huge landslide, as his abysmal, historically low favorability/character ratings played absolutely no role in the defeat of Gore, who only lost because he didn’t embrace Bill enough. Even Monica would have beaten Bush with a single-issue campaign focused on MORE JOBS.

[Alben Barkley]

Obviously Bill wins in a huge landslide, as his abysmal, historically low favorability/character ratings played absolutely no role in the defeat of Gore, who only lost because he didn’t embrace Bill enough. Even Monica would have beaten Bush with a single-issue campaign focused on MORE JOBS.

This but VERY unironically.

537 “votes” in Florida (as we all know, many thousands of old Jewish Democrats voted for borderline Nazi Pat Buchanan in Palm Beach County as an inexplicable act of protest that year) separated Sleepy Al’s terrible anti-Clinton campaign from the White House as it was.

But I’m sure maybe the greatest retail politician of all-time, whose approval rating reached a high in the 70s DURING his impeachment and is one of only a few presidents in history to defy the six-year itch, would have struggled more because “character” ratings matter MUCH more than job approval ratings in American voting habits, hence why Donald Trump never got more than like 20% of the vote in any election. I’m sure Bill would have lost Florida in particular (despite winning it easily four years earlier) because, as we all know, Florida has a distinct history of rejecting sleazy politicians of dubious “character.”

It’s the economy, stupid.

Always has been.

I mean Jesus Christ, Arkansas and Kentucky were ready to vote for Hillary by mere association with Bill as late as 2008! But sure, everyone just hated him in 2000 with his 67%+ approval ratings and the first budget surplus since Andrew Jackson, an unprecedented golden age of peace and prosperity. Most Americans were just DYING to change course at such a time!

[Politician]

Obviously Bill wins in a huge landslide, as his abysmal, historically low favorability/character ratings played absolutely no role in the defeat of Gore, who only lost because he didn’t embrace Bill enough. Even Monica would have beaten Bush with a single-issue campaign focused on MORE JOBS.

*SNIP*

Did MT Treasurer steal your lunch money as a kid or something?

Anyway to answer the question, he would probably have lost. His favorability ratings would have collapsed as Bush and the right-wing attack machine got revved up.

And Buchanan wasn't a "Nazi", lol.

[dw93]

Clinton wins all the Gore state plus FL, MO, NH, and AR.

[LabourJersey]

Obviously Bill wins in a huge landslide, as his abysmal, historically low favorability/character ratings played absolutely no role in the defeat of Gore, who only lost because he didn’t embrace Bill enough. Even Monica would have beaten Bush with a single-issue campaign focused on MORE JOBS.

Eh, Bill's relationship with Monica, and the way both he and the Republicans handled it, would have been substantially different if he could have ran for another term.

How that would have affected him is hard to determine. I could see him being more "careful" so to speak in a way he obviously wasn't in real life, or I could this being far more damaging.

[NewYorkExpress]

The Lewinsky Scandal means Clinton does much worse than 1992 and 1996, but he's still a relatively popular incumbent who should be able to win reelection by a modest electoral vote margin, and significantly larger margin in the popular vote.

Bill Clinton/Al Gore 53%
George W. Bush/Elizabeth Dole 46%

[America Needs a 13-6 Progressive SCOTUS]

Honestly, I think Bill Clinton would not have ran for a 3rd term even if he could.

[NewYorkExpress]

Honestly, I think Bill Clinton would not have ran for a 3rd term even if he could.

In that case we probably get Hillary Clinton for President eight/sixteen years early.

I think she'd have run in 2000 if she thought she could beat Gore in the primary.

[President Johnson]

It's too unfortunate that the 22nd Amendment may gave us both Dubya and Trump. Both won very narrowly and lost the popular vote while the incumbent Democratic president was term-limited, but could have easily beaten them.

[Agonized-Statism]

In that case we probably get Hillary Clinton for President eight/sixteen years early.

I think she'd have run in 2000 if she thought she could beat Gore in the primary.

Without political experience in the Senate? Doubt it.

[NewYorkExpress]

In that case we probably get Hillary Clinton for President eight/sixteen years early.

I think she'd have run in 2000 if she thought she could beat Gore in the primary.

Without political experience in the Senate? Doubt it.

Hillary easily could have been in 2000 (or 2004 IRL) what Obama was in 2008, especially if she was running against Gore in the primary.

[Kahane's Grave Is A Gender-Neutral Bathroom]

In that case we probably get Hillary Clinton for President eight/sixteen years early.

I think she'd have run in 2000 if she thought she could beat Gore in the primary.

Without political experience in the Senate? Doubt it.

Hillary easily could have been in 2000 (or 2004 IRL) what Obama was in 2008, especially if she was running against Gore in the primary.

Yes, it's easy to paint yourself as an outsider when your spouse is the incumbent president.

[NewYorkExpress]

In that case we probably get Hillary Clinton for President eight/sixteen years early.

I think she'd have run in 2000 if she thought she could beat Gore in the primary.

Without political experience in the Senate? Doubt it.

Hillary easily could have been in 2000 (or 2004 IRL) what Obama was in 2008, especially if she was running against Gore in the primary.

Yes, it's easy to paint yourself as an outsider when your spouse is the incumbent president.

Compared to Gore, who'd been in elected office since 1977? Hillary would have very much been an outsider.

[Agonized-Statism]

Hillary easily could have been in 2000 (or 2004 IRL) what Obama was in 2008, especially if she was running against Gore in the primary.

You mean Senator Obama? 2004 maybe, 2000 no.

[Pericles]

No way the incumbent President loses in 2000 with things as great as they were.

[Sir Mohamed]

No way Clinton would have lost these approvals; the question is just whether he would have been less popular without the 22nd Amendment? Politicians retiring tend to be more popular than those running for reelection. But given how close it was, incumbency advantage and his charisma, there's still little reason to believe W could have ousted Clinton.

Since Perot doesn't contest the race this time around, Clinton finally wins an election with an absolute majority of the NPV, but fewer EC votes compared to 1992/96. Btw, I think Clinton could have pulled an FDR without term limits, (narrowly) winning a 4th term in 2004 over John McCain. Would have retired or finally lost in 2008 though.



✓ President Bill Clinton (D-AR)/Vice President Al Gore (D-TN): 334 EVs.; 50.7%
Governor George W. Bush (R-TX)/Former Def. Sec. Richard Cheney (R-WY): 205 EVs.; 47.4%

[Asenath Waite]

Obviously Bill wins in a huge landslide, as his abysmal, historically low favorability/character ratings played absolutely no role in the defeat of Gore, who only lost because he didn’t embrace Bill enough. Even Monica would have beaten Bush with a single-issue campaign focused on MORE JOBS.

This but VERY unironically.

537 “votes” in Florida (as we all know, many thousands of old Jewish Democrats voted for borderline Nazi Pat Buchanan in Palm Beach County as an inexplicable act of protest that year) separated Sleepy Al’s terrible anti-Clinton campaign from the White House as it was.

But I’m sure maybe the greatest retail politician of all-time, whose approval rating reached a high in the 70s DURING his impeachment and is one of only a few presidents in history to defy the six-year itch, would have struggled more because “character” ratings matter MUCH more than job approval ratings in American voting habits, hence why Donald Trump never got more than like 20% of the vote in any election. I’m sure Bill would have lost Florida in particular (despite winning it easily four years earlier) because, as we all know, Florida has a distinct history of rejecting sleazy politicians of dubious “character.”

It’s the economy, stupid.

Always has been.

I mean Jesus Christ, Arkansas and Kentucky were ready to vote for Hillary by mere association with Bill as late as 2008! But sure, everyone just hated him in 2000 with his 67%+ approval ratings and the first budget surplus since Andrew Jackson, an unprecedented golden age of peace and prosperity. Most Americans were just DYING to change course at such a time!

I personally like Gore better then Clinton and have my criticisms of Clintonism ideologically but I think that you are probably correct here. Gore was in many ways similar to Nixon in 1960 in that both were uncharismatic Vice Presidents who failed to ride the coattails of the more popular president they served under and lost narrow elections under questionable circumstances in a time of peace and prosperity.

[NixonFan]

Honestly, I think Bill Clinton would not have ran for a 3rd term even if he could.

LMAO....yeah right