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« Reply #100 on: June 28, 2004, 09:49:02 PM »

I've been watching some of the election coverage and someone was saying MP.  What's an MP?

Member of Parliament
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« Reply #101 on: June 28, 2004, 09:56:51 PM »

TONY CLEMENT WAS DEFEATED!!!

DAMN IT!
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« Reply #102 on: June 28, 2004, 09:58:33 PM »

TONY CLEMENT WAS DEFEATED!!!

DAMN IT!

YAY!
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« Reply #103 on: June 28, 2004, 10:00:19 PM »


Why are you yaying? The Conservatives are losing all of thier moderate MPs! PC is vanishing before our eyes. All that will be left are those hicks from Alberta.
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« Reply #104 on: June 28, 2004, 10:02:17 PM »

Because people like him are not on our side.

I wonder if you still think the merger was a good idea Tongue
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« Reply #105 on: June 28, 2004, 10:03:39 PM »

How long do you think the minority government will last?
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« Reply #106 on: June 28, 2004, 10:07:05 PM »
« Edited: June 28, 2004, 10:07:33 PM by Beaver »

Because people like him are not on our side.

I wonder if you still think the merger was a good idea Tongue

It was a terrible idea! All the remnants of our party is gone.

I had to vote Liberal, which makes me very mad! I  just couldn't vote for Harper's party. I feel better about it because I voted against a Dutch guy
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« Reply #107 on: June 28, 2004, 10:07:09 PM »

There will be an election befroe the end of 2005, I'd say.
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« Reply #108 on: June 28, 2004, 10:08:07 PM »

How long do you think the minority government will last?

A year or two, longer than was expected.
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« Reply #109 on: June 28, 2004, 10:09:24 PM »

If it was a minority govt held up by the BQ, it'd be tomorrow Wink

I think the NDP can work with the Libs for a year or so.
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« Reply #110 on: June 28, 2004, 10:11:18 PM »

If it was a minority govt held up by the BQ, it'd be tomorrow Wink

I think the NDP can work with the Libs for a year or so.

I personally don't think the NDP and the Liberals will go together. We will find out soon enough though.
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« Reply #111 on: June 28, 2004, 10:16:56 PM »
« Edited: June 28, 2004, 10:18:46 PM by John Ford »

Well, it looks like the Liberals will win then.  I'd say the key was that voters didn't care much about the sponsorship scandal, and were more concerned about how Mr. Harper was too conservative on Charter issues.  Wait, what the hell am I talking about?

Oh well, forget Canada.  It is a silly place.
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« Reply #112 on: June 28, 2004, 10:17:11 PM »

The NDP and Libs will work together for at least 3 years, unless the Liberals are very confident that they'll win a Majority. My predicition is this minority government will last 2-3 years.

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« Reply #113 on: June 28, 2004, 10:32:27 PM »

If Jack Layton uses the word "Energy" one more time...... sheesh....
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« Reply #114 on: June 28, 2004, 10:39:35 PM »

And now he's switching from language to language... even though the NDP got like 5 votes in Quebec...
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« Reply #115 on: June 28, 2004, 10:39:37 PM »

and 'change' Cheesy
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« Reply #116 on: June 28, 2004, 10:40:45 PM »
« Edited: June 28, 2004, 10:42:28 PM by WMS »


Why are you yaying? The Conservatives are losing all of thier moderate MPs! PC is vanishing before our eyes. All that will be left are those hicks from Alberta.

That is probably how the moderate Democrats in the U.S. felt in 1994 when the Republicans wiped out most of the Dem moderates, especially in the South, and left the party dominated by NDPleft-wing nutcases from safe leftist urban districts. Note how the Dems haven't won back control of the House in 4 elections since then? You have my sympathy, Beaver. Smiley

And on a Modified note: how will the presence of the anti-American leftist NDP in the government affect U.S.-Canadian relations? I predict things will get even chillier...
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« Reply #117 on: June 28, 2004, 10:43:10 PM »

*screams*  Come on Belinda, you can do it!   Pull through!
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« Reply #118 on: June 28, 2004, 11:06:05 PM »

Well, it looks like the Liberals will win then.  I'd say the key was that voters didn't care much about the sponsorship scandal, and were more concerned about how Mr. Harper was too conservative on Charter issues.  Wait, what the hell am I talking about?

Oh well, forget Canada.  It is a silly place.

John Ford,

It IS a silly place, but it wasn't always like that. In the 1970's and 1980's this was a wonderful country to visit. It's such a shame what it has become. They have gone from being America's little brother to being Europe's retarded cousin all over the course of two generations...so sad.
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« Reply #119 on: June 28, 2004, 11:09:23 PM »

They have gone from being America's little brother to being Europe's retarded cousin all over the course of two generations

LOL.

Then, cry out loud.
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« Reply #120 on: June 28, 2004, 11:17:57 PM »

And now he's switching from language to language... even though the NDP got like 5 votes in Quebec...
Quebec is not the only place that has francophones in Canada.  The NDP did win the Acadie-Bathurst riding in New Brunswick on the Quebec border.
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« Reply #121 on: June 28, 2004, 11:23:03 PM »

Notice Harper's 'fairy claps' for Martin? Smiley

and the booing. I've never heard Canadians boo before :shocked:
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« Reply #122 on: June 29, 2004, 12:00:03 AM »

Noticed the Liberal-NDP combined number now sits at 155...

If I were Harper...I'd continue in a semi-campaign mode...keep the lines open to the BQ and see if they can eventually (at a good time for both) force a new election.

Especially if the supposed coalition number falls behind the post.
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« Reply #123 on: June 29, 2004, 12:31:22 AM »

Barring any reversals on recount, 155+ for the LPC/NDP combination looks firm.  The CBC website shows 154 firm ridingsright now and at least one of the others, Western Arctcic is a firm tossup between the LPC and the NDP.  Still this is a parliament that could be brought down by a by-election or two even if the LPC and NDP don't want it.

All it takes is one important bill (Clark learned that in 1979). The Liberals are a centrist party for Canada.

Harper should continue to tour the country in quasi campaign mode...wait for something like a budget or regional devolution bill to come up...and try to siphon off some of the more conservative liberals...just enough to convince Martin he needs to hold another election.
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« Reply #124 on: June 29, 2004, 12:38:21 AM »
« Edited: June 29, 2004, 12:47:57 AM by Justin »

Barring any reversals on recount, 155+ for the LPC/NDP combination looks firm.  The CBC website shows 154 firm ridingsright now and at least one of the others, Western Arctcic is a firm tossup between the LPC and the NDP.  Still this is a parliament that could be brought down by a by-election or two even if the LPC and NDP don't want it.
Actually the NDP/LPC Coalition is exactly at 155 seats because the Liberals need to nominate a speaker of the house who does not vote unless there is a tie. Also, if martin is implicated in the Adscam and sponsorship scandals when the report is released we may see the NDP rethink it's posistion on an informal government. I don't think even then the NDP would stand in the way of a no confidence vote.
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