GA: East Carolina University: Kemp up five

[RI]

https://surveyresearch-ecu.reportablenews.com/pr/georgia-senate-race-tied-kemp-leads-abrams-by-five

Kemp 50
Abrams 45

[President Johnson]

Tilt/Lean Republican.

However, in this environment, any loss of less than five would still be decent.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Tilt/Lean Republican.

However, in this environment, any loss of less than five would still be decent.

Lol it's a Runoff if either Candidate doesn't get 50%

[Politician]

https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1536378674697474048?cxt=HHwWgMCgnfeQqNIq...

[wbrocks67]

The results of the poll reveal significant divisions between white and black voters. Warnock leads Walker 83% to 7% among black voters; however, among white voters, Walker leads Warnock 65% to 29%. In the race for governor, Abrams leads Kemp 86% to 9% among black voters, whereas Kemp leads Abrams 70% to 27% among white voters.

That's pretty much it - both are doing about the same with black voters, with Warnock getting +76 and Abrams getting +77, but with White voters, Warnock doing sightly better at -36, versus Abrams -43. Abrams has to be able to grab some of those White Warnock/Kemp voters.

[GALeftist]

https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1536378674697474048?cxt=HHwWgMCgnfeQqNIq...

You should really demand payment from the RNC one of these days. Probably put in at least 40 hours/week on their behalf on this site entirely pro bono.

[Sir Mohamed]

Lean R.

I expect Kemp to win by 3-4 pts.

[Politician]

https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1536378674697474048?cxt=HHwWgMCgnfeQqNIq...

You should really demand payment from the RNC one of these days. Probably put in at least 40 hours/week on their behalf on this site entirely pro bono.

So what? Atlas pounces whenever a Republican says something stupid. What's so bad about reporting something that actually happened?

[GALeftist]

https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1536378674697474048?cxt=HHwWgMCgnfeQqNIq...

You should really demand payment from the RNC one of these days. Probably put in at least 40 hours/week on their behalf on this site entirely pro bono.

So what? Atlas pounces whenever a Republican says something stupid. What's so bad about reporting something that actually happened?

This board is to discuss elections, not to roleplay as a brave conservative speaking truth to the liberal horde. Do you honestly think that a comment made by Sherrod Brown is going to matter one iota in this race?

[Podgy the Bear]

This sounds about right and will probably be close to the final margin. 

Warnock is the one person I want to save this November.  He will run ahead of Abrams--the question is by how much. 

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

This sounds about right and will probably be close to the final margin. 

Warnock is the one person I want to save this November.  He will run ahead of Abrams--the question is by how much. 

Lol it's a runoff state just like the SEN, but we haven't had any Blk female Govs but this can be the right time

[MT Treasurer]

So what? Atlas pounces whenever a Republican says something stupid. What's so bad about reporting something that actually happened?

It’s very amusing to see their reactions whenever the tables are turned after years of Democrats and liberals (of all avatar colors) on this forum doing the same (and worse) and sounding like "paid DNC hacks" without any self-awareness on this board. 3-5 Republican-leaning posters and they already think that's insufferable when there were ten times as many partisan Democrats who engaged in this every single day during Obama's and Trump's presidencies (and even in Biden's first year, albeit to a lesser extent).

The only difference is that they know they are in the majority and therefore have less incentive to reflect on their own posts.

As far as Sherrod Brown is concerned, well, he’s really been outdoing himself since Biden's election. He’s probably counting on his past crossover appeal and/or Republicans being incompetent enough to again lose to him in 2024, but that’s a bold strategy, Cotton, so we’ll see if it pays off (at least Tester has been focusing on strengthening his brand).

[Xing]

So what? Atlas pounces whenever a Republican says something stupid. What's so bad about reporting something that actually happened?

It’s very amusing to see their reactions whenever the tables are turned after years of Democrats and liberals (of all avatar colors) on this forum doing the same (and worse) and sounding like "paid DNC hacks" without any self-awareness on this board. 3-5 Republican-leaning posters and they already think that's insufferable when there were ten times as many partisan Democrats who engaged in this every single day during Obama's and Trump's presidencies (and even in Biden's first year, albeit to a lesser extent).

The only difference is that they know they are in the majority and therefore have less incentive to reflect on their own posts.

As far as Sherrod Brown is concerned, well, he’s really been outdoing himself since Biden's election. He’s probably counting on his past crossover appeal and/or Republicans being incompetent enough to again lose to him in 2024, but that’s a bold strategy, Cotton, so we’ll see if it pays off (at least Tester has been focusing on strengthening his brand).

1) Two wrongs don't make a right.

2) I don't recall Democrats doing this excessively in polling threads or topics completely unrelated, though I could be wrong.

3) Many of the red avatars who do this or refuse to engage in debate are rightfully called out for it.

It could be the case that the overall lean on this forum means that red avatars get away with more, but the solution to this is collectively holding them to a higher standard, not holder conservative-leaning posters to a lower standard.

[MT Treasurer]

1) Two wrongs don't make a right.

They don’t, but they make the wrong (which is really more a counterreaction than a "wrong") that follows the first wrong a lot more understandable.

2) I don't recall Democrats doing this excessively in polling threads or topics completely unrelated, though I could be wrong.

Less so there than on boards like U.S. General Discussion, but I and most other Republican/conservative-leaning posters definitely recall things very differently. It’s funny how differently we can "recall" things based on our partisan/ideological preferences, isn’t it?

3) Many of the red avatars who do this or refuse to engage in debate are rightfully called out for it.

No, they aren’t? In fact, some of them are some of the most "respected" forum members. It’s not just red avatars, by the way — there are "green" and Socialist avatars have been more unpleasant and combative than even most partisan red avatars, and yes, I’m not oblivious to confrontational right-of-center posters either. I also don’t want to lump all liberals (I prefer that term to "red avatars") together, but the problem is that the minority of extremely aggressive/combative posters is a large and very vocal one that thinks it can get away with anything because it is part of the majority and ~80% of moderators are Democrats.

It could be the case that the overall lean on this forum means that red avatars get away with more, but the solution to this is collectively holding them to a higher standard, not holder conservative-leaning posters to a lower standard.

Yes, but the problem is that "collectively holding them to a higher standard" never materializes. One good first step (that would probably also do most of the work) would be to create a more civil atmosphere in which personal attacks, grudges, personality cults, etc. (e.g. "Opinion of user xyz?" threads or general references to other posters) are discouraged or disallowed, but there is absolutely no indication that the majority of forum moderators has any interest in doing that.

I normally don’t insert myself in these personal fights/attacks, especially since (a) it’s largely a waste of time and (b) it’s useful fodder for certain moderators who have always held a grudge against you and are desperately looking for reasons to ban you, but again - it always helps imagining yourself in the shoes of the other side while browsing this forum and posting something. You’ve been here for years, so you really shouldn’t be surprised by the reactions of the more right-leaning posters.

[Xing]

They don’t, but they make the wrong (which is really more a counterreaction than a "wrong") that follows the first wrong a lot more understandable.

Understandable? Yes. Helpful? No, quite the contrary, since it then means that a third party is often "wronged" even though they had nothing to do with the original "wrong", and the cycle continues. For it to end, someone has to decide it's not worth it to punch back. If everyone decides that it's not their responsibility to care about others, we all suffer.

Less so there than on boards like U.S. General Discussion, but I and most other Republican/conservative-leaning posters definitely recall things very differently. It’s funny how differently we can "recall" things based on our partisan/ideological preferences, isn’t it?

I recall threads being started about something Trump or another Republican said, and while that can certainly be criticized, it's different from a non-sequitur.

No, they aren’t? In fact, some of them are some of the most "respected" forum members. It’s not just red avatars, by the way — there are "green" and Socialist avatars have been more unpleasant and combative than even most partisan red avatars, and yes, I’m not oblivious to confrontational right-of-center posters either. I also don’t want to lump all liberals (I prefer that term to "red avatars") together, but the problem is that the minority of extremely aggressive/combative posters is a large and very vocal one that thinks it can get away with anything because it is part of the majority and ~80% of moderators are Democrats.

Many red avatars who are very hackish and rude to anyone who disagrees with them are very lowly regarded here, and their "opinion of" polls back that up. Perhaps they get a 25-30% FF rating instead of a 10-15% rating, though that still means a very large number of left-leaning posters disapprove of them. Can you name any aforementioned posters who are "some of the most respected members"? Yes, the toxic environment has rubbed off on posters of all ideological persuasions, though that just illustrates the problem of the "if they can be jerks, so can I" line of thinking.

Yes, but the problem is that "collectively holding them to a higher standard" never materializes. One good first step (that would probably also do most of the work) would be to create a more civil atmosphere in which personal attacks, grudges, personality cults, etc. (e.g. "Opinion of user xyz?" threads or general references to other posters) are discouraged or disallowed, but there is absolutely no indication that the majority of forum moderators has any interest in doing that.

I normally don’t insert myself in these personal fights/attacks, especially since (a) it’s largely a waste of time and (b) it’s useful fodder for certain moderators who have always held a grudge against you and are desperately looking for reasons to ban you, but again - it always helps imagining yourself in the shoes of the other side while browsing this forum and posting something. You’ve been here for years, so you really shouldn’t be surprised by the reactions of the more right-leaning posters.

It never materializes because, as I said, the majority believe that it should be someone else's responsibility. I actually mostly agree that "opinion of" threads do more harm than good in general, thus why the only ones I've started have been about users of which I have a high opinion. I think that criticizing one's posting style (while making it clear that it's not necessarily a reflection of them as a person) is fine, though that distinction can be very hard for some. I think that creating a less toxic environment is challenging because, in some ways, it goes against our very nature, which is to focus on negatives and recognize potential threats. It takes conscious effort on everyone's part to try and make any community more positive and to see the best in others while forgiving their mistakes.

I'm not surprised by the number of right-leaning posters who have gotten more aggressive, nor do I think it's coming out of nowhere, but that doesn't mean it isn't disappointing, particularly when they go after left-leaning posters who did not personally attack them. Empathy has to be mutual. The anger and aggression of many left-leaning posters here have is also a response either to the political reality, or attacks that they've faced elsewhere. That doesn't mean that lashing out at all right-wingers is going to help.

[wbrocks67]

The point is that people may call me a hack, but I've openly criticized different Democrats and the things they've done at times. Most of us aren't here to be the DNC. We obviously align more with their candidates and the party as a whole, but I don't blanketly just defend everything they do.

Meanwhile, some posters like the one posting Sherrod Brown videos in a GA poll thread, have never uttered a single word against the Republican party and are their main defender in every single thread.