2022 FIFA World Cup - Qatar, November 21-December 18

[Anzeigenhauptmeister]

I extend my congratulations to Argentinia. Usually I don't watch much soccer, but had a chance this time around. I'm just glad I didn't prefer a team, so it was less nervous after this specific match. For sure one of the most interesting ones I've ever seen.

That said, I don't really like deciding matches by penalty shots. Always feels that the result more depends on luck than anything else.

Do you know how draws were decided prior to the (German) invention of penalty shootouts?

PS: The winning country is called Argentina in English.

[LAKISYLVANIA]

I was like "we have seen the best football player of all-time yesterday".

I just wasn't sure who it is going to be: Messi or Mbappe.

Mbappe of course has a long career ahead of him (hopefully if he stays relatively injury-free). But within 12 years, maybe he'll be the best of all-time.

[LAKISYLVANIA]

Does anyone know why President Fernandez was not in Qatar for the Finals?

Yes, our TV commentator said he wasn't in Qatar because he was superstitious and believed going to Qatar would make his team lose the match, so he stayed at home.

[Edu]

Best of luck, old friend!

Enjoy it! And be safe!

Go and celebrate my friend!! But, not too much because there are more celebrations in the next few days.

Thanks guys, had a great time.

Raging hangover = worth it

[Edu]

Does anyone know why President Fernandez was not in Qatar for the Finals?

As far as I know, argentine presidents don't travel to watch the World Cup final. Didn't happen in 1986 with Alfonsin, 1990 with menem, 2014 with Cristina or 2022 with Fernandez. Reasons probably vary, but it's probably mostly because they think it tempts fate and gives bad luck (they are "mufa" as we call it). It helps that Fernandez has like a 20% approval rating. The official reason is because "football and politics shouldn't mix", lol.

[Meclazine for Israel]

Does anyone know why President Fernandez was not in Qatar for the Finals?

The commentators said he thought he was a bad luck charm for the team.

When he last went to an Argentine World Cup final, they lost, so he was superstitious.

It worked.

[buritobr]

I believe traveling abroad in order to watch the national squad is a tradition of European leaders. As Edu said, no Argentine presidents traveled abroad in order to watch the World Cup finals. The same happened to Brazilian presidents. Itamar Franco didn't travel to the USA in 1994, Fernando Henrique Cardoso didn't travel to France in 1998 and to Japan in 2002.

[Lexii, harbinger of chaos and sexual anarchy]

Does anyone know why President Fernandez was not in Qatar for the Finals?

The commentators said he thought he was a bad luck charm for the team.

When he last went to an Argentine World Cup final, they lost, so he was superstitious.

It worked.

Well, he is a bad luck charm, that's objectively true

[Lexii, harbinger of chaos and sexual anarchy]

I believe traveling abroad in order to watch the national squad is a tradition of European leaders. As Edu said, no Argentine presidents traveled abroad in order to watch the World Cup finals. The same happened to Brazilian presidents. Itamar Franco didn't travel to the USA in 1994, Fernando Henrique Cardoso didn't travel to France in 1998 and to Japan in 2002.

Macri quite likely would've done it if Argentina got that far in 2018, but he's always been a football guy, as well as independently wealthy, and that's how he consolidated his political career , he's also a FIFA loyalist (having taken office as the excecutive chairman of the FIFA Foundation as soon as he lost the reelection)

There's a decent chance that Néstor would've also gone as he was a gynormous football fan

[buritobr]

Updating the list of leaders who saw their national squads winning the FIFA men's World Cup

1930: Juan Campisteguy (center)
1934: Benito Mussolini (far-right)
1938: Benito Mussolini (far-right)
1950: Luis Batlle Berres (center)
1954: Konrad Adenauer (center-right)
1958: Juscelino Kubitschek (center)
1962: president João Goulart (left), prime minister Tancredo Neves (center)
1966: Harold Wilson (center-left)
1970: Emílio Gastarrazu Médici (far-right)
1974: Helmut Schmidt (center-left)
1978: Jorge Rafael Videla (far-right)
1982: Giovanni Spadolini (center-right)
1986: Raúl Alfonsín (center)
1990: Helmut Kohl (center-right)
1994: Itamar Franco (center)
1998: president Jacques Chirac (center-right), prime minister Lionel Jospin (center-left)
2002: Fernando Henrique Cardoso (center)
2006: Romano Prodi (center-left)
2010: José Luis Zapatero (center-left)
2014: Angela Merkel (center-right)
2018: Emmanuel Macron (center)
2022: Alberto Fernández (center-left)

[Edu]

Finally the dipsh**t made this tuesday a natial holiday. the team is goin g to go from the airport in the outskirts of Bs As to the obelisk (near whwere i am ) I suppose I got to0 get drunk again, andf I don't eben lijke Football that much...hilarious

Viva agentia ,a puta mdre que te páRIO


I'm mgoin to the obelisk, so f.u.c.k youi, have fun. Christmas and new year after wards, holy sh**t.

[Edu]

I ended up sleeping on my couch. Oh well, lmao

[Edu]

This is from today, apparently the team was going to do a bus tour from the airport to the city of Buenos Aires and all around it. apparently like 5 million people are out there, but it seems that the tour was cancelled midway and no one knows who to blame lol

[Edu]

Maybe this wasn't such a well thought plan after all lol

https://twitter.com/Tato_Aguilera/status/1605277977608179734?s=20&t=Qdct0AFh...

[Anzeigenhauptmeister]

2014: Angela Merkel (center-right)

"center-right" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[Lechasseur]

I extend my congratulations to Argentinia. Usually I don't watch much soccer, but had a chance this time around. I'm just glad I didn't prefer a team, so it was less nervous after this specific match. For sure one of the most interesting ones I've ever seen.

That said, I don't really like deciding matches by penalty shots. Always feels that the result more depends on luck than anything else.

Do you know how draws were decided prior to the (German) invention of penalty shootouts?

PS: The winning country is called Argentina in English.

No idea at international level, but at anyrate in English club football, the match would have to be replayed at a later date

I think penalty shootouts, while not ideal, are still better than a replay or a draw (as in winner gets picked randomly)

[LAKISYLVANIA]

Updating the list of leaders who saw their national squads winning the FIFA men's World Cup

1930: Juan Campisteguy (center)
1934: Benito Mussolini (far-right)
1938: Benito Mussolini (far-right)
1950: Luis Batlle Berres (center)
1954: Konrad Adenauer (center-right)
1958: Juscelino Kubitschek (center)
1962: president João Goulart (left), prime minister Tancredo Neves (center)
1966: Harold Wilson (center-left)
1970: Emílio Gastarrazu Médici (far-right)
1974: Helmut Schmidt (center-left)
1978: Jorge Rafael Videla (far-right)
1982: Giovanni Spadolini (center-right)
1986: Raúl Alfonsín (center)
1990: Helmut Kohl (center-right)
1994: Itamar Franco (center)
1998: president Jacques Chirac (center-right), prime minister Lionel Jospin (center-left)
2002: Fernando Henrique Cardoso (center)
2006: Romano Prodi (center-left)
2010: José Luis Zapatero (center-left)
2014: Angela Merkel (center-right)
2018: Emmanuel Macron (center)
2022: Alberto Fernández (center-left)

Early on the olympics had more prestige than the world cup on tournaments

Winners were

1896 Denmark
1900 UK
1904 Canada
1908 UK
1912 UK
1920 Belgium
1924 Uruguay
1928 Uruguay
1936 Italy

After WWII the tournament lost its shine but winners would be

1948 Sweden
1952 Hungary
1956 USSR
1960 Yugoslavia
1964 Hungary
1968 Hungary
1972 Poland
1976 East Germany
1980 Czechoslovakia
1984 France
1988 USSR

Then due to new changes it became a youth tournament, winners would be

1992 Spain
1996 Nigeria
2000 Cameroon
2004 Argentina
2008 Argentina
2012 Mexico
2016 Brazil
2020 Brazil

[buritobr]

Until the 1970s, professional players were forbidden. So, most of the countries didn't have their strongest teams. The communist countries used to win because their amateur teams were their most important teams, since professional sport was forbidden under the communist rule.
In the 1980s, the Olympic soccer allowed professionals, but only players who didn't play a World Cup yet. So, the teams had young players.
Since 1992, it's officialy a youth tournment. Maximum 3 players older than 23.

Until 1992, "men's soccer" in the Olympics was only "soccer". Women's soccer started in Olympics in Atlanta 1996. Some social progress is so recent!

[Helsinkian]

I extend my congratulations to Argentinia. Usually I don't watch much soccer, but had a chance this time around. I'm just glad I didn't prefer a team, so it was less nervous after this specific match. For sure one of the most interesting ones I've ever seen.

That said, I don't really like deciding matches by penalty shots. Always feels that the result more depends on luck than anything else.

Do you know how draws were decided prior to the (German) invention of penalty shootouts?

PS: The winning country is called Argentina in English.

No idea at international level, but at anyrate in English club football, the match would have to be replayed at a later date

I think penalty shootouts, while not ideal, are still better than a replay or a draw (as in winner gets picked randomly)

There was one replay, and if that replay also ended in a draw, the team that advanced was chosen by lot (for example by flipping a coin).

[buritobr]

Another interesting fact

The countries who already won were Brazil, Argentina, Uruguay, Germany, Italy, England, France, Spain. In this group, only Uruguay never had a driver who was Formula 1 champion.

[LAKISYLVANIA]

Another interesting fact

The countries who already won were Brazil, Argentina, Uruguay, Germany, Italy, England, France, Spain. In this group, only Uruguay never had a driver who was Formula 1 champion.

Uruguay is the only nation which is kind of small compared to the others which are big nations.

If Netherlands did win one of their three finals they would also have fitted your fun fact given Verstappen became Formula 1 champion.

[buritobr]

Another interesting fact

The countries who already won were Brazil, Argentina, Uruguay, Germany, Italy, England, France, Spain. In this group, only Uruguay never had a driver who was Formula 1 champion.

Uruguay is the only nation which is kind of small compared to the others which are big nations.

If Netherlands did win one of their three finals they would also have fitted your fun fact given Verstappen became Formula 1 champion.

Croatia almost broke this rule in 2018.
There was a Formula 1 world champion who was born in Croatia: Mario Andretti. But he had American nationality. And when he won in 1978, Croatia was not an independent country.