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« on: July 08, 2023, 06:16:47 AM »

By this, that the country would no longer exist and that Russia would annex it.
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« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2023, 06:25:21 AM »

ask me 5 years ago and I'd vote "probably yes".  After the blind monkey circus "special military operation" my vote is a hard no.
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« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2023, 08:28:01 AM »

Putin or those behind him always try to do things behind the scenes. They still don't have the courage to even call a war a war. Therefore, when Belarus is finally annexed, it will be difficult to find out this. Perhaps it has already been annexed, because Belarus and Russia have one state for two: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_State
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« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2023, 02:09:30 PM »

No chance- Belarusian state apparatus would never willingly give up their power like that, and Russia likes that extra seat at the UN.
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« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2023, 03:00:03 PM »

Belarus seems like a safe "friend" to Russia for the near future, at least, so I don't see the need for Russia to annex them.
Putin needs leaders of other countries to support him, or at least to "stand by his side" during photo opportunities. It seems the only images/video that we see with Putin, where a large group of other leaders are standing with him, are those from past USSR satellite republics.
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« Reply #5 on: July 08, 2023, 03:40:40 PM »

Not anymore.
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« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2023, 08:39:24 PM »
« Edited: July 08, 2023, 08:42:42 PM by CanadianDemocrat »

Belarus seems like a safe "friend" to Russia for the near future, at least, so I don't see the need for Russia to annex them.
Putin needs leaders of other countries to support him, or at least to "stand by his side" during photo opportunities. It seems the only images/video that we see with Putin, where a large group of other leaders are standing with him, are those from past USSR satellite republics.

Having puppet states is better then annexing a country, there is too much opposition to annexing a country. The Warsaw Pact was an alliance of Soviet puppet states, it was better for the Soviet Union to have puppet states such as East Germany and Poland, instead of annexing them.
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« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2023, 08:42:01 PM »

No chance- Belarusian state apparatus would never willingly give up their power like that, and Russia likes that extra seat at the UN.

The Beylorussian SSR and the Ukrainian SSR each had a vote in the UN.  This was something Stalin insisted on.  I doubt that would happen again.
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« Reply #8 on: July 08, 2023, 09:45:45 PM »

No chance- Belarusian state apparatus would never willingly give up their power like that, and Russia likes that extra seat at the UN.

The Beylorussian SSR and the Ukrainian SSR each had a vote in the UN.  This was something Stalin insisted on.  I doubt that would happen again.

Regarding that did they ever vote differently from the ussr ?
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« Reply #9 on: July 09, 2023, 03:58:33 AM »

Always been sceptical this would actually happen, if anything more so now.
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« Reply #10 on: July 09, 2023, 02:10:03 PM »

Was never a possibility unlike the reverse in the 90s
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« Reply #11 on: July 12, 2023, 06:24:49 PM »

As of the moment, quite unlikely. Basically No.
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« Reply #12 on: July 13, 2023, 06:02:16 PM »

When Lukashenko dies maybe
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« Reply #13 on: July 13, 2023, 06:34:16 PM »

If Russia has its way, yes. Belorussians don’t want it but the country is existing due to Russian subsidization and Putin considers it his.
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« Reply #14 on: July 13, 2023, 07:19:05 PM »

It seems like this has been one of those inevitable things for like thirty years now. We'll see. The make-or-break moment will be the immediate post-Lukashenko years.
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« Reply #15 on: July 14, 2023, 03:35:12 AM »

The philosophical concept of Triune Rus' does not imply a literal annexation. In the head of the ruscists, Triune Rus' is the Union of Great, White and Little Rus' (Russia, Belarus and Ukraine, respectively), and this is what Putin and Lukashenko created — the Union State, but the Ukrainians kicked Yanukovych out before he managed to include Ukraine here. De facto, it's an annexation by Russia, with very intensive assimilation by Russians, but outwardly it's framed as a union of equal fraternal ethnic groups.
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« Reply #16 on: July 15, 2023, 12:04:49 PM »

I suspect that Belarus is more useful to Russia as a puppet state, to which it can, for example, exile ex-mutineers.
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« Reply #17 on: July 15, 2023, 12:23:45 PM »

Depends on the outcome of the Ukraine war. If Russia loses or is de facto seen as loser in any agreement, Putin and/or his successor will be too weak to make a serious play.
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