Describe a Goldwater 1964 - McGovern 1972 voter
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« on: June 04, 2022, 05:11:07 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2022, 05:58:00 PM »

non-ideological, but super anti-establishment
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« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2022, 10:54:39 AM »

Harvey Milk, potentially (he was a Republican until he switched parties in 1972).
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« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2022, 11:28:21 AM »

I would say Hillary Clinton for sure (she volunteered for both men's campaigns), but I rememebred she wouldn't have been old enough to vote in 1964.
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« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2022, 04:54:56 PM »
« Edited: June 06, 2022, 05:14:17 PM by Alcibiades »

Someone who was raised in a conservative family and was 18 in 1964 (there were a handful of states which already allowed 18 year-olds to vote prior to the passage of the 26th Amendment), and simply copied their parents’ vote. However, they were exposed and converted to liberal/countercultural ideas at college, so that by the time 1972 came they voted for McGovern.
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« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2022, 05:18:31 PM »

Someone just old enough to vote in 1964, attracted to Goldwater's talk about "liberty," while ultimately believing that McGovern liberals were stronger on civil liberties.
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« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2022, 06:15:05 PM »

I think there was a town in Massachusetts that voted this way
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« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2022, 06:30:17 PM »

libertarian that had soured on Vietnam by 72.
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« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2022, 01:35:35 PM »

Republican who lost a son in Vietnam.
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« Reply #9 on: June 07, 2022, 01:49:30 PM »

Someone who was raised in a conservative family and was 18 in 1964 (there were a handful of states which already allowed 18 year-olds to vote prior to the passage of the 26th Amendment), and simply copied their parentsí vote. However, they were exposed and converted to liberal/countercultural ideas at college, so that by the time 1972 came they voted for McGovern.

That's basically Hillary Clinton's political journey as a young woman, although she wasn't old enough to vote in 1964
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« Reply #10 on: June 12, 2022, 12:44:19 AM »


Very plausible and a good answer - best and most realistic one yet.

I think there was a town in Massachusetts that voted this way

There were counties in MS and AL that voted this way.
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« Reply #11 on: June 12, 2022, 10:49:08 AM »


Very plausible and a good answer - best and most realistic one yet.

I think there was a town in Massachusetts that voted this way

There were counties in MS and AL that voted this way.

Barely counts. Most if not all of the people who voted for McGovern in those counties couldn't vote in 1964.
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« Reply #12 on: June 12, 2022, 12:11:06 PM »


Very plausible and a good answer - best and most realistic one yet.

I think there was a town in Massachusetts that voted this way

There were counties in MS and AL that voted this way.

Barely counts. Most if not all of the people who voted for McGovern in those counties couldn't vote in 1964.

Of course.
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« Reply #13 on: June 12, 2022, 05:52:32 PM »

Potter Stewart who was an associate justice of SCOTUS voted this way to limit the landslide .
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« Reply #14 on: June 18, 2022, 08:59:17 PM »

Another option: Somebody who (rightly so) trusted neither LBJ nor Nixon and thus voted for their opponents.
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« Reply #15 on: June 22, 2022, 09:05:33 PM »

I think there was a town in Massachusetts that voted this way
Does anyone know what the town was?
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« Reply #16 on: June 22, 2022, 09:10:07 PM »

I think there was a town in Massachusetts that voted this way
Does anyone know what the town was?

There almost certainly wasnít. Johnson won MA by 53 points. And his weakest County (which he still won by 14) voted for Nixon by 23 points.
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« Reply #17 on: June 22, 2022, 09:13:17 PM »

I think there was a town in Massachusetts that voted this way
Does anyone know what the town was?

There almost certainly wasnít. Johnson won MA by 53 points. And his weakest County (which he still won by 14) voted for Nixon by 23 points.

oh ok.  I noticed from looking at the map just how blue MA swung in 1964 from 1960... which means a lot of people that did not vote for Kennedy voted for Johnson?!?
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« Reply #18 on: June 22, 2022, 09:23:55 PM »

I think there was a town in Massachusetts that voted this way
Does anyone know what the town was?

There almost certainly wasnít. Johnson won MA by 53 points. And his weakest County (which he still won by 14) voted for Nixon by 23 points.

oh ok.  I noticed from looking at the map just how blue MA swung in 1964 from 1960... which means a lot of people that did not vote for Kennedy voted for Johnson?!?

Goldwater was successfully portrayed by Johnson as a right-wing extremist, which made him unpopular nationwide, but especially so in the liberal bastion of New England. Additionally, the mourning over JFK, an even stronger force in Massachusetts, made Johnson cruise to an extremely easy victory. Whatís interesting is that Johnsonís landslide was not as massive as it would have been earlier in the election season- some polls around Spring Time showed Johnson wiki a 40-50 point lead nationwide.
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« Reply #19 on: July 03, 2022, 05:23:55 PM »

Hypothetically speaking, I could imagine a libertarian type of voter doing this without needing to go through any sort of ideological shift.
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