Choose one: ban all abortion and death penalty, or abortion and death penalty completely legal

[David Hume]

To me it's a very simple choice.

[afleitch]

Define 'no restriction on death penalty'.

[Statilius the Epicurean]

Define 'no restriction on death penalty'.

The Bloody Code makes a comeback, maybe.

[David Hume]

Define 'no restriction on death penalty'.

Congress and Each state legs will decide when death penalty applies. For example TX may execute rapist without murder and SC won't intervene. Basically return to pre- Witherspoon v. Illinois , 391 U.S. 510 (1968).

[Illiniwek]

Option 1 FTW

[Person Man]

Both scenarios would ruin society but let's go through them:

Worst case scenario in situation 1:
You are woman with an ectopic pregnancy or you and your spouse/baby daddy are now getting arrested for child abuse because you are having a difficult pregnancy. There is about an added aggregate risk of 1% you and your partner "get years" or at least go to jail for a while. At least you will not be killed.

Worst case scenario in situation 2:
You get in a bar fight and someone in it gets f cked up really bad when you reach for a broken bottle after getting a concussion with two teeth knocked in. If serious felony-grade assaults started getting the Death Penalty and enough people lied about what happened, you're going to die. There's probably, on average, a 1% chance of that happening in your life.

So I guess option 1?  

[Former President tack50]

Voted option 1 with the understanding that the usual sets of exceptions (most notably danger to the mother's health) would be included. Otherwise I'd switch to allowing the death penalty and abortion.

[Sir Mohamed]

Reluctantly #1, banning both abortion and the death penalty.

[TDAS04]

“Ban all abortion” almost certainly condemns more women to die than the states would sentence in that scenario.

This is a very good point.

[Schiff for Senate]

Option 3.

"No restrictions," if taken literally, is a poor approach to both of these things.

Obviously. That's the point - which is the lesser of two evils? Nobody even remotely rational could actually unironically support any of those 4 things except ending the death penalty.

[buritobr]

Usually, progressives are pro abortion and anti death penalty, conservatives are anti abortion and pro death penalty

But in many countries in Americas, there are countries which follow the examples in this poll: there is legal abortion and death penalty in the USA and in Cuba, there is no legal abortion and no death penalty in most latin american countries. Some countries follow the progressive model, legal abortion and no death penalty: Canada, Argentina, Uruguay, Colombia

[GregTheGreat657]

Option 3

[dw93]

I'm pro choice and support the death penalty so this was an easy vote.

[MABA 2020]

I'm not that opposed to the death plenty in limited circumstances so this is not difficult for me, obviously also pro abortion

[courts]

reluctant option 4

[Pink Panther]

I guess ban all abortion and the death penalty, though it's a difficult choice.

[TPIG]

Consistent life ethic, for the win!