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« Reply #25 on: June 10, 2022, 01:39:49 PM »

Yes/Yes (Atheism is the objective truth, and its important morally that people not be allowed to mislead others with religious promises that can never be kept)

Simple minded take.  Such a disingenuous and stupid use of “objective.”

By the very nature of the debate, one could literally never prove atheism as “truth.”  No matter what side of this eternal question you land on, it IS simply your guess that you’re making without all necessary information.  Smart, well-adjusted and functionally interpersonal people on both sides get that.
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« Reply #26 on: June 10, 2022, 04:18:35 PM »

Yes/Yes (Atheism is the objective truth, and its important morally that people not be allowed to mislead others with religious promises that can never be kept)

Simple minded take.  Such a disingenuous and stupid use of “objective.”

By the very nature of the debate, one could literally never prove atheism as “truth.”  No matter what side of this eternal question you land on, it IS simply your guess that you’re making without all necessary information.  Smart, well-adjusted and functionally interpersonal people on both sides get that.

The fact that something can't be proven doesn't mean that it isn't true. Regardless of whether the atheists or the Christians are correct, there is an objective truth out there. It is impossible for there to be "more than one truth" if those truths contradict one another.
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« Reply #27 on: June 11, 2022, 11:02:06 AM »

Yes/Yes (Atheism is the objective truth, and its important morally that people not be allowed to mislead others with religious promises that can never be kept)

Simple minded take.  Such a disingenuous and stupid use of “objective.”

By the very nature of the debate, one could literally never prove atheism as “truth.”  No matter what side of this eternal question you land on, it IS simply your guess that you’re making without all necessary information.  Smart, well-adjusted and functionally interpersonal people on both sides get that.

The fact that something can't be proven doesn't mean that it isn't true. Regardless of whether the atheists or the Christians are correct, there is an objective truth out there. It is impossible for there to be "more than one truth" if those truths contradict one another.

Wait, I agree with a John Dule take on religion?!  Yes, I know we go to opposite conclusions from there, but it's still kind of funny.

I do think there is very good evidence for Christianity, but there are certainly places where faith is needed to explain my faith.
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« Reply #28 on: June 11, 2022, 12:55:30 PM »

Neither the Bible nor the traditional teachings of the church leave any ambiguity about the propitiatory role of Christ's sacrifice for mankind's salvation.  He is the way, the truth and the light; no one comes to the Father except through Him.

To hear self-described Christians "highly suspect" of this teaching is quite discouraging, to say the very least.       

I know this is a bit of a "classic" criticism of the faith, but the reason more Christians are abandoning that belief is because it makes the God of the Bible seem like a totally inept sociopathic Hitlerian figure. The implication is obviously that God chose to only make Christianity prominent or even known at all in some parts of the world while abandoning others, usually specifically ignoring certain racial and ethnic groups. Obviously decent people are going to be turned off by the idea of billions of Indians and Chinese and un-contacted tribes being tossed into hell because God was too lazy to reveal himself in those locations.
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« Reply #29 on: June 11, 2022, 02:41:02 PM »

Yes/Yes (Atheism is the objective truth, and its important morally that people not be allowed to mislead others with religious promises that can never be kept)

Simple minded take.  Such a disingenuous and stupid use of “objective.”

By the very nature of the debate, one could literally never prove atheism as “truth.”  No matter what side of this eternal question you land on, it IS simply your guess that you’re making without all necessary information.  Smart, well-adjusted and functionally interpersonal people on both sides get that.

The fact that something can't be proven doesn't mean that it isn't true. Regardless of whether the atheists or the Christians are correct, there is an objective truth out there. It is impossible for there to be "more than one truth" if those truths contradict one another.

Wait, I agree with a John Dule take on religion?!  Yes, I know we go to opposite conclusions from there, but it's still kind of funny.

I do think there is very good evidence for Christianity, but there are certainly places where faith is needed to explain my faith.

The people answering "no" to the first question are, to me, ridiculous. What is even the point of discussing these issues if you don't believe in the concept of truth?
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« Reply #30 on: June 26, 2022, 12:23:33 AM »

Yes and yes

I am unsure the extent to which non Christians can be saved, but any of them who are are only saved by the blood of Christ and not according to the dictates of their own religion.
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« Reply #31 on: June 26, 2022, 01:09:17 AM »



What about babies who die young ? Do they get saved ? They didn't get to choose Christ.


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« Reply #32 on: June 26, 2022, 11:07:48 AM »


What about babies who die young ? Do they get saved ? They didn't get to choose Christ.




I believe God elects all of them to heaven, but God alone knows.
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« Reply #33 on: June 26, 2022, 02:43:12 PM »

Yes / Yes
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« Reply #34 on: July 02, 2022, 10:04:48 PM »

Christ is the Way, the Truth, and the Life. He is most fully revealed through the Christian faith, though we see through a glass darkly, and other traditions catch glimpses.   It is important to share the Truth revealed to us, for many need to hear, even though it may be that some experience this Truth themselves through their own symbols outside of Christianity. 
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