SR 109-06: Protecting the Constitution and Senators' Rights Resolution (Adopted)
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« Reply #25 on: June 07, 2022, 04:20:23 AM »

I think that would technically be 18 non-special slots in that case. I wasn't sure about the 20 figure WD got in the first place since we only expanded the regular slots to that number.

Am I misreading something? Because looking at the noticeboard from last session and the one for this one, it is 20 regular slots and then 5 special slots.

Basing it off of what's on a noticeboard is less than ideal. Sometimes PPTs don't include unused slots and well let's be honest, sometimes the PPT can just be on crack.

I would say search the board for rules resolutions that passed. If I have time tomorrow I am going to try and get the rules wiki page up to day myself.

Uh...no. We passed a rules change at the beginning of the 108th Senate setting the slots to 25 (20 regular, 5 special). Just wanted to point that out.
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« Reply #26 on: June 07, 2022, 04:54:13 AM »

I think that would technically be 18 non-special slots in that case. I wasn't sure about the 20 figure WD got in the first place since we only expanded the regular slots to that number.

Am I misreading something? Because looking at the noticeboard from last session and the one for this one, it is 20 regular slots and then 5 special slots.

Basing it off of what's on a noticeboard is less than ideal. Sometimes PPTs don't include unused slots and well let's be honest, sometimes the PPT can just be on crack.

I would say search the board for rules resolutions that passed. If I have time tomorrow I am going to try and get the rules wiki page up to day myself.

Uh...no. We passed a rules change at the beginning of the 108th Senate setting the slots to 25 (20 regular, 5 special). Just wanted to point that out.

Uh...yes. That is a resolution you are referencing now not a noticeboard, which you did originally.
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« Reply #27 on: June 08, 2022, 01:38:56 AM »

Quote from: Amendment Offered
Senate Resolution
To amend the Senate Rules so as to preserve the rights of Senators under the constitution.

Be it resolved in the Senate Assembled, that the rules be amended as follows:
Quote
Protecting the Constitution and Senators' Rights Resolution

Section 1: Article 1, Clause 7 shall read as follows:
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7. No Presiding Officer operating under the rules of this chamber shall
       1. Deny or inhibit the powers of the Senate as expressed in the Constitution.
       2. Subordinate the Senate to another branch or subvert the co-equal status of the Legislative Branch.
       3. Prematurely end an objection or vote change period.
       4. Close a vote before a quorum has had a reasonable opportunity to vote.

Section 2: Article 2, Clause 3 sub clause a) shall be altered as follows:
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a.) The first 15 20 open threads shall be open to all legislation initially regarding bills, resolutions or constitutional amendments. Legislation shall be brought up into these 15 20 slots by the PPT in the order of their introduction, unless the sponsor already has two or more pieces of legislation on the Senate floor. Legislation from Senators who do not already have two bills on the floor shall take priority until all such other legislation is completed. The PPT shall be the Presiding Officer for these open threads.

Section 3: Article 3, Clause 3 shall be amended as follows:
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3.) If judged hostile by the sponsor, or if a Senator has objected, a vote shall be started by the PPT once the amendment has been on the floor twenty four hours. The vote shall last for three days or until a majority has voted in favor or against the amendment, at which point Senators who have voted shall be prohibited from changing their votes and the vote shall be declared final. No amendment vote shall be declared passed unless a quorum has voted on the amendment.

Section 4: Article 4, Clause 4 shall be amended as follows:
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4.) When debate on legislation has halted for longer than 24 hours and the legislation has been on the floor for more than 120 hours, any Senator may call for a vote on said legislation. The presiding officer shall open a vote if no other member of the Senate objects within 24 hours of the call for a vote. When the legislation has been on the floor for more than 120 hours, any Senator may motion for cloture. Upon the concurrence of three-fifths of the Senate (with a quorum present in the vote), the Senate shall end debate, and proceed to a final vote. If the legislation has been on the floor for more than 168 hours, or debate has ceased for 24 hours, a simple majority (with a quorum present in the vote) is needed in order to end the debates. The presiding officer shall then open a final vote.

Section 5: Article 5 Clause 3 shall be amended as follows:        
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3.) For the motion to table to pass, two-thirds of those voting (excluding abstentions and with a quorum present in the vote) must support the motion.

Section 6: Article 6, Clause 1 shall be amended as follows:
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1.) Final Votes and veto overrides votes shall last for a maximum of 4 days (i.e. 96 hours). No final vote may be ended without a quorum present in the vote. A final vote may be ended earlier than 96 hours:

a. If the vote has a majority to pass or fail, then the Presiding officer may call 24 hours for Senators to vote or change their votes.

b. If all Senators have voted and the result is unanimous for or against, then the Presiding Officer may end the vote immediately.

Section 7:
Article 7, Clause 3 shall be amended as follows:
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3.) The vote shall last for a maximum of four days (96 hours) and require a quorum present in the confirmation vote. No Senator shall be prohibited from voting until after the nominee has received enough votes to pass or fail confirmation, at which point vote changes shall be prohibited.

People's and Region's Senate
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« Reply #28 on: June 08, 2022, 11:48:33 AM »

Senators have 24 hours to object to the amendment.
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« Reply #29 on: June 10, 2022, 01:01:39 AM »

Yankee's amendment is adopted.
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« Reply #30 on: June 11, 2022, 11:24:33 PM »

You know, once this passes I'm going to have to update the Senate rules page on the wiki. Pretty sure it's overdue about two layers of amendments.

Motion for a final vote – 24 hours to object.
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« Reply #31 on: June 14, 2022, 10:02:06 AM »
« Edited: June 14, 2022, 10:09:28 AM by Lincoln Senator Joseph Cao »

A final vote is now open on the following:

Quote from: Current Text
Senate Resolution
To amend the Senate Rules so as to preserve the rights of Senators under the constitution.

Be it resolved in the Senate Assembled, that the rules be amended as follows:
Quote
Protecting the Constitution and Senators' Rights Resolution

Section 1: Article 1, Clause 7 shall read as follows:
Quote
7. No Presiding Officer operating under the rules of this chamber shall
       1. Deny or inhibit the powers of the Senate as expressed in the Constitution.
       2. Subordinate the Senate to another branch or subvert the co-equal status of the Legislative Branch.
       3. Prematurely end an objection or vote change period.
       4. Close a vote before a quorum has had a reasonable opportunity to vote.

Section 2: Article 2, Clause 3 sub clause a) shall be altered as follows:
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a.) The first 20 open threads shall be open to all legislation initially regarding bills, resolutions or constitutional amendments. Legislation shall be brought up into these 20 slots by the PPT in the order of their introduction, unless the sponsor already has two or more pieces of legislation on the Senate floor. Legislation from Senators who do not already have two bills on the floor shall take priority until all such other legislation is completed. The PPT shall be the Presiding Officer for these open threads.

Section 3: Article 3, Clause 3 shall be amended as follows:
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3.) If judged hostile by the sponsor, or if a Senator has objected, a vote shall be started by the PPT once the amendment has been on the floor twenty four hours. The vote shall last for three days or until a majority has voted in favor or against the amendment, at which point Senators who have voted shall be prohibited from changing their votes and the vote shall be declared final. No amendment vote shall be declared passed unless a quorum has voted on the amendment.

Section 4: Article 4, Clause 4 shall be amended as follows:
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4.) When debate on legislation has halted for longer than 24 hours and the legislation has been on the floor for more than 120 hours, any Senator may call for a vote on said legislation. The presiding officer shall open a vote if no other member of the Senate objects within 24 hours of the call for a vote. When the legislation has been on the floor for more than 120 hours, any Senator may motion for cloture. Upon the concurrence of three-fifths of the Senate (with a quorum present in the vote), the Senate shall end debate, and proceed to a final vote. If the legislation has been on the floor for more than 168 hours, or debate has ceased for 24 hours, a simple majority (with a quorum present in the vote) is needed in order to end the debates. The presiding officer shall then open a final vote.

Section 5: Article 5 Clause 3 shall be amended as follows:       
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3.) For the motion to table to pass, two-thirds of those voting (excluding abstentions and with a quorum present in the vote) must support the motion.

Section 6: Article 6, Clause 1 shall be amended as follows:
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1.) Final Votes and veto overrides votes shall last for a maximum of 4 days (i.e. 96 hours). No final vote may be ended without a quorum present in the vote. A final vote may be ended earlier than 96 hours:

a. If the vote has a majority to pass or fail, then the Presiding officer may call 24 hours for Senators to vote or change their votes.

b. If all Senators have voted and the result is unanimous for or against, then the Presiding Officer may end the vote immediately.

Section 7:
Article 7, Clause 3 shall be amended as follows:
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3.) The vote shall last for a maximum of four days (96 hours) and require a quorum present in the confirmation vote. No Senator shall be prohibited from voting until after the nominee has received enough votes to pass or fail confirmation, at which point vote changes shall be prohibited.

People's and Region's Senate
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Senators have 96 hours to vote. Please vote Aye, Nay, or Abstain.
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« Reply #32 on: June 14, 2022, 10:04:16 AM »

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« Reply #33 on: June 14, 2022, 11:01:03 AM »

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« Reply #34 on: June 14, 2022, 11:52:32 AM »

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« Reply #35 on: June 14, 2022, 12:26:07 PM »

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« Reply #36 on: June 14, 2022, 02:10:26 PM »

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« Reply #37 on: June 14, 2022, 02:13:59 PM »

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« Reply #38 on: June 14, 2022, 02:26:58 PM »

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« Reply #39 on: June 14, 2022, 02:43:11 PM »

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« Reply #40 on: June 14, 2022, 09:08:20 PM »

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« Reply #41 on: June 15, 2022, 11:54:17 PM »

Aye.
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« Reply #42 on: June 19, 2022, 11:47:21 PM »

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Lincoln: Vacant
Northeast: AGA – Nay
Great Lakes: Cao – Aye

Frιmont: Kuumo – Aye
Mountain West: AFE – Aye
Pacific: Western Democrat – Not voting

South: Mr. R – Aye
Upper South: Yankee – Aye
Deep South: Muad'dib – Not voting

STV1: MB – Aye
STV2: Weatherboy – Aye
STV3: Deadprez – Aye
STV4: West_Midlander – Aye
STV5: Sestak – Not voting
STV6: OSR – Not voting
STV7: Blairite – Aye
STV8: Adam – Not voting
STV9: Liam – Not voting

By a vote of 10-1-0-6, the resolution is adopted.
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« Reply #43 on: June 19, 2022, 11:49:03 PM »
« Edited: June 20, 2022, 12:41:48 AM by Lincoln Senator Joseph Cao »

Quote from: Final Text
Senate Resolution
To amend the Senate Rules so as to preserve the rights of Senators under the constitution.

Be it resolved in the Senate Assembled, that the rules be amended as follows:
Quote
Protecting the Constitution and Senators' Rights Resolution

Section 1: Article 1, Clause 7 shall read as follows:
Quote
7. No Presiding Officer operating under the rules of this chamber shall
       1. Deny or inhibit the powers of the Senate as expressed in the Constitution.
       2. Subordinate the Senate to another branch or subvert the co-equal status of the Legislative Branch.
       3. Prematurely end an objection or vote change period.
       4. Close a vote before a quorum has had a reasonable opportunity to vote.

Section 2: Article 2, Clause 3 sub clause a) shall be altered as follows:
Quote
a.) The first 20 open threads shall be open to all legislation initially regarding bills, resolutions or constitutional amendments. Legislation shall be brought up into these 20 slots by the PPT in the order of their introduction, unless the sponsor already has two or more pieces of legislation on the Senate floor. Legislation from Senators who do not already have two bills on the floor shall take priority until all such other legislation is completed. The PPT shall be the Presiding Officer for these open threads.

Section 3: Article 3, Clause 3 shall be amended as follows:
Quote
3.) If judged hostile by the sponsor, or if a Senator has objected, a vote shall be started by the PPT once the amendment has been on the floor twenty four hours. The vote shall last for three days or until a majority has voted in favor or against the amendment, at which point Senators who have voted shall be prohibited from changing their votes and the vote shall be declared final. No amendment vote shall be declared passed unless a quorum has voted on the amendment.

Section 4: Article 4, Clause 4 shall be amended as follows:
Quote
4.) When debate on legislation has halted for longer than 24 hours and the legislation has been on the floor for more than 120 hours, any Senator may call for a vote on said legislation. The presiding officer shall open a vote if no other member of the Senate objects within 24 hours of the call for a vote. When the legislation has been on the floor for more than 120 hours, any Senator may motion for cloture. Upon the concurrence of three-fifths of the Senate (with a quorum present in the vote), the Senate shall end debate, and proceed to a final vote. If the legislation has been on the floor for more than 168 hours, or debate has ceased for 24 hours, a simple majority (with a quorum present in the vote) is needed in order to end the debates. The presiding officer shall then open a final vote.

Section 5: Article 5 Clause 3 shall be amended as follows:        
Quote
3.) For the motion to table to pass, two-thirds of those voting (excluding abstentions and with a quorum present in the vote) must support the motion.

Section 6: Article 6, Clause 1 shall be amended as follows:
Quote
1.) Final Votes and veto overrides votes shall last for a maximum of 4 days (i.e. 96 hours). No final vote may be ended without a quorum present in the vote. A final vote may be ended earlier than 96 hours:

a. If the vote has a majority to pass or fail, then the Presiding officer may call 24 hours for Senators to vote or change their votes.

b. If all Senators have voted and the result is unanimous for or against, then the Presiding Officer may end the vote immediately.

Section 7:
Article 7, Clause 3 shall be amended as follows:
Quote
3.) The vote shall last for a maximum of four days (96 hours) and require a quorum present in the confirmation vote. No Senator shall be prohibited from voting until after the nominee has received enough votes to pass or fail confirmation, at which point vote changes shall be prohibited.

People's and Region's Senate
Adopted 10-1-0-6 in the Atlasian Senate assembled,


Joseph Cao, president pro tempore
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