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ingemann
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« on: May 10, 2022, 12:47:35 AM »

The NATO role should be replaced by European Union to disarm Cold War feelings. Take US off game can help to give another NATO image.

The lesson from the Ukraine invasion is that NATO is a stabilizing force, which keep deranged Russian leaders from invading countries and the members from attacking each other. So I see no reason to mess with a winning formula.
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« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2022, 11:07:49 AM »

Countries attacked by NATO since 1991: Serbia & Montenegro, Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, Libya

Countries attacked by Russia since 1991: Ukraine and Georgia.

Interesting.

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Countries attacked by NATO in its entire history: Afghanistan.


The question here is whether NATO is imperialist, not whether its member states could be called imperialist. NATO article 5 have invoked once. As such NATO has only waged war once and that was after unprovoked attack on one of its members.

So based on the military history of NATO, it's not an imperialist organization. 
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« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2022, 07:26:39 AM »

Countries attacked by NATO since 1991: Serbia & Montenegro, Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, Libya

Countries attacked by Russia since 1991: Ukraine and Georgia.

Interesting.

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Countries attacked by NATO in its entire history: Afghanistan.


The question here is whether NATO is imperialist, not whether its member states could be called imperialist. NATO article 5 have invoked once. As such NATO has only waged war once and that was after unprovoked attack on one of its members.

So based on the military history of NATO, it's not an imperialist organization.  

Simply stunning.

By this metric, Russia isn't doing imperialism in Ukraine right now, since after all it's only a "special military operation." How convenient for the world powers that they only get to call it war when they're not the aggressors.

Seeing as most of the examples of NATO aggression you used, had several NATO countries staying neutral or diplomatic supporting the other part (Serbia and Montenegro, Libya, 2nd Gulf War Iraq) and one country never having being invaded or at war with any NATO country (Pakistan) and in fact being a American “ally”. The only two example you could use would be would be Afghanistan and 1st Gulf War Iraq (where USSR also was part of the anti-Iraq coalition), that at most what you can use as example of NATO waging war. Yes I know it’s hard for tankies to get that NATO is not the same as USA but try anyway.
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